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[ You’ve gone on record stating that President Barack Obama’s policy initiatives are bringing us closer to the apocalypse.]

I don’t think I’ve said that. But the fact is, he’s a committed socialist. He was educated by a socialist, he thinks like a socialist, and he surrounds himself with socialist, ultra, ultra-liberal thinkers. The problem with socialism is, not only do they not believe in God or accountability to him…

[ …You don’t think President Obama believes in God?]

I’m talking about socialism. He is a committed socialist. They’re wrong in believing in the perfectibility of man—that man is very good. That’s one of the cardinal mistakes that socialists make. The Bible says that man’s heart is desperately wicked, and he needs salvation. He needs a new heart put in him by spiritual force in calling for the name of the Lord. One thing you have to distinguish is those who claim they’re Christians, but who’ve never had an experience with Jesus. They’re usually people that hardly ever go to church, hardly ever read the Bible, but rather than be atheists or nothing, they say they’re a Christian. Well, that doesn’t make you a Christian.

[ Isn’t Barack Obama a Christian?]

I challenge you: Name one Christian who he’s appointed to public office.

[ Hillary Clinton.]

You’ve got to be kidding me. She’s a socialist. She is ultra, ultra liberal. And besides, have you ever heard of as many communists or socialists that have been appointed as tsars in our country? There are 134 of them and they’ve been appointed by this man who you claim is a Christian.

Tim Lahaye, The Daily Beast 98 Comments [5/25/2011 3:17:14 AM]
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Grey Seer

Once again, it is possible to be a Christian without being a conservative fucknut.

Oh, what's the point in repeating myself again? They'll never listen....

5/25/2011 3:28:48 AM



Jesus would have been socialist and a liberal, if the concepts (and Jesus) had existed back then, you numbnut....

5/25/2011 3:51:06 AM


Yup, 'cos if there's one thing socialists love, it's a tsar.

5/25/2011 4:01:55 AM


"They're not REAL Christians, they're socialist atheist nazi communist brown-shirt nazi Hitler nazi's".

Does that sum up your argument, Mr Lahaye?

5/25/2011 4:05:35 AM


@Paler_Face - you forgot 'Muslim'.

And the idea that Clinton is a socialist... wow.

5/25/2011 4:45:19 AM


You’ve got to be kidding me. She’s a socialist. She is ultra, ultra liberal.

"Tim Lahaye", please go ahead. I think you are completely clueless what you are doing here.

Right-wing nutjobs like you are destroying your religion much more effectively than any "evil Atheist world conspiration" ever could:


People like you are responsible that more and more young people are associating "Religion = Right-Wing nutjobbery". So in the name of reason: I urge you to continue with your personal crusade against liberals.

5/25/2011 4:56:12 AM


Sound like another case for Inigo Montoya!

5/25/2011 4:59:01 AM


get outta town

5/25/2011 4:59:45 AM

Mister Spak

You're an ultra, ultra retard.

5/25/2011 5:07:07 AM

Head of the conspiracy

Socialist Tsars. Yeah, the Tsars were known for their keen love of socialism alright.

5/25/2011 5:33:58 AM


Can anyone explain to me why sensible people haven't attacked Tim LeHaye's scrotum with a cheese grater? I'd do it, but it's a long trip for me and I can't afford the gasoline or air fare. So someone nearby is going to have to grate that sac. OK?

5/25/2011 5:49:03 AM


Didn't Obama nominate Jon Huntsman Jr to be ambassador to China?

5/25/2011 5:58:40 AM


FIRST: Obama's a Centrist.

SECOND: Similar for Hillary.

THIRD: Russian Tsars & Socialists are anethema to each other.

FOURTH: Jesus was VERY SOCIALIST! With few exceptions, he could be a real Hippie/Pinko/Commie/Peacenik/whatever else you hate.

FIFTH: You are a moron.

5/25/2011 6:09:09 AM


"I challenge you: Name one Christian who he’s appointed to public office."

That's like saying, I challenge you: Tell me the color of the sky! Ha! You can't!

Pretty much every politician in the USA is one. They HAVE to be in order to be elected. Land of free they say.....

"And besides, have you ever heard of as many communists or socialists that have been appointed as tsars in our country?"

Reagan, Republican demigod, started it!

5/25/2011 6:11:05 AM


Said it many times, but it still bears repeating: American voters and politicians wouldn't know a true "liberal" or "socialist" if one came up and bit them on the ass. The entire American political spectrum is shifted so far to the right that it's barely recognizable anymore. Your "ultra, ultra liberal" Hilary Clinton looks like a centrist anywhere else. If anything, the US is in danger of sliding into classical fascism.

5/25/2011 6:11:13 AM


@Skater12 & Paler_Face

....not to mention "Jewish Satanist Lizard-Man From Outer Space who kills puppies & eats babies"

5/25/2011 6:12:24 AM


All this time I thought that socialism was just an economic system and had nothing to do with politics or religion. Consider me schooled. Now if only I could figure out what "ultra, ultra liberal" means...

5/25/2011 6:13:02 AM

Brendan Rizzo

You. Are. An. Idiot. Obama is as much a socialist as I am a member of the religious right, and a ton of his staff are Christians. I refuse to accept this level of stupidity in American politics any more! No longer will we tolerate a certain political party claiming that all of their enemies are allied with each other! No longer will we accept them trying to turn our beloved United States into a theocracy, its antithesis! No longer are we going to allow them to drive the education standards of this country into the ground, and no longer are we going to just let ourselves be mocked by Europeans and others! WHO IS WITH ME?!

5/25/2011 6:27:42 AM


[...] but rather than be atheists or nothing, they say they’re a Christian.

Isn't being "nothing" in regards to religion the same as being an atheist?

5/25/2011 6:29:03 AM


What Tim is trying to say is "I'm the only True Christian and the rest of you can go to hell and that includes you, you Commie/Socialist, man of the down trodden, Jesus! My God if you were alive today you'd probably support Healthcare and same sex marriage! The Cross was too good for you mate!"

5/25/2011 6:34:17 AM

Doubting Thomas

Even if Obama carried a bible everywhere he went, spouted bible verses in every speech, and funded faith-based initiatives to the likes that George W. Bush never even thought of, they'd still say he's not Christian enough.

I challenge you: Name one Christian who he’s appointed to public office.

Ahh, I see, you hate him because you think he's not playing the "good ol' boy Christian club" game.

5/25/2011 6:52:27 AM


Hail Reagan, full of bootstraps, the laffer curve is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst stockholders and blessed is the trickle-down of thy free market, Tim.

5/25/2011 6:56:36 AM


What exactly is so bad about Socialism? Free Healthcare and social justice?

The bad stuff that comes with socialism is already been done by republicans - Patriot Act anyone?

5/25/2011 7:04:38 AM


It's delicious to see a right-wingnut squirm when pressurised by someone who knows more than them; how they try to spin their way out of an increasingly uncomfortable situation, only for them to paint themselves further into a corner with every word of unjustifiable - certainly baseless - bullshit they continue to spew. It's the intellectual equivalent -certainly in Tim's case - of being confronted by Pinhead and the rest of the Order of the Gash:

'You solved the box, we came. Now you must come with us, taste our pleasures.'

'No tears, please. It's a waste of good suffering.'

-Pinhead, "Hellraiser"


I guess that's why Pat Robertson hasn't dared challenge Richard Dawkins at the Oxford or Cambridge Debating Societies, and have such broadcast on worldwide TV (with the loser having to admit defeat - in Pat's case, openly state, with even signing a legal document to the effect, that there is no God, and he must become an Atheist in perpetuity). He knows that Dawkins would intellectually do infinitely worse to him - and his 'beliefs' - than even the unimaginable tortures the Cenobites inflict on their victims.

Just ask Ted Faggard, Pat. Dawkins utterly annihilated him in his documentary "The Root Of All Evil?" (and that was before Faggard's expose & resulting downfall).

...but that's by the by. Pop quiz, hotshot: Norway. A Social Democratic country. Welfare'd up to the eyeballs. It was effectively the only country that emerged unscathed out of the unholy mess of a recession created by your God Emperor of Fucking Up, George Dumbya Bush. One question: Why?

The Czech Republic. Former member of the USSR's Warsaw Pact. Now not only a Democratic country, but a member of NATO - and the EU. Speaking of which, in polls & surveys conducted by the EU, it was found to be the least religious country in Europe (and just 5% of Sweden's population are regular churchgoers; less so in Denmark). Why?

'Socialised Medicine'? We in the UK have had the National Health Service since the late 1940s. We're still here. Why?

China: Communist. Yet, it's not only assimilated Capitalism, but seems to have found the right socio-political-fiscal formula. Result: China now owns your country, Tim. Body and soul. Why?

Take your time, I know they can be difficult questions to answer for the hard of thinking Religious Right-wingnut, neocunt, teabagger such as you, Tim.

You may not like the answers.

5/25/2011 7:19:48 AM

Zeus Almighty

"He needs a new heart put in him by spiritual force in calling for the name of the Lord."

Too bad he can't give you a new brain. I'm thinking Abby Normal's brain would be an upgrade in your case ...
Unfortunately, gawd can't give you a new brain or new heart. What with that whole not existing thing he has going on.

5/25/2011 7:35:47 AM

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