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Effects on morale can be particularly adverse. The presence of women among male troops weakens combat readiness. All-male units in the field experience bonding that enhances unit cohesion and effectiveness. When women are introduced, men stop relating to each other and begin trying to attract the women. Nor can morale be improved when accusations of harassment are always a threat. Male officers leave the office door open or have a third person in the room when dealing with a female subordinate. An accusation of sexual harassment by the woman, even if unproven, would severely damage the man's service career, and both the man and the woman are acutely aware of that fact. They could hardly not be sensitive to the issue when, for example, Representative Pat Schroeder demanded and got sexual harassment training for all personnel in order to rid the Navy of bad attitudes.

The Israelis, Soviets, and Germans, when in desperate need of front-line troops, placed women in combat, but later barred them. Male troops forgot their tactical objectives in order to protect the women from harm or capture, knowing what the enemy would do to female prisoners of war. This made combat units less effective and exposed the men to even greater risks. In the Gulf War a female American pilot was captured, raped, and sodomized by Iraqi troops. She declared that this was just part of combat risk. But can anyone suppose that male pilots will not now divert their efforts to protecting female pilots whenever possible?

Our military seems quite aware of such dangers, but, because of the feminists, it would be politically dangerous to respond as the Israelis did by taking women out of harm's way. Instead, the American solution is to try to stifle the natural reactions of men. The Air Force, for example, established a mock prisoner of war camp to desensitize male recruits so they won't react like men when women prisoners scream under torture. There is a very considerable anomaly here. The military is training men to be more sensitive to women in order to prevent sexual harassment and also training men to be insensitive to women being raped and sodomized or screaming under torture. It is impossible to believe that both efforts can succeed simultaneously.

Robert Bork, Fathers for Life 64 Comments [5/26/2011 3:57:50 AM]
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Sooo, sounds to me like it would suck to be a man in the military. I can go in knowing that the troop has got my back and men will take extra steps to insure sexual harassment is not an issue... poor guy, on the other hand, got to worry about brothers being self centered, putting him at risk of capture or death, and uncaring if he gets tortured.

5/27/2011 1:03:39 AM

Jubba the Mad

That pilot was not raped or sodomised. She was, in her own words, 'molested' by a lone soldier in the back of a truck after being captured. She felt strongly, for reasons i can't be arsed irepeating, that it was an opportunist attack and he was scared of the other soldiers finding out. Apart from that she says she was treated with kindness and respect.

Also, my assessment of her character from what I've read leads me to believe that if she was here she would stomp your ass.

5/27/2011 2:30:42 AM

By your logic, why does anyone join the army and go overseas at all rather than stay home and protect the womenfolk directly?

5/27/2011 8:01:02 AM


Would you like a drone to go with that whine?

My guess is, that like Rush Limbaugh, he's never been downrange of anything more deadly than a Krispy Kreme machine

5/27/2011 2:13:39 PM


What causes fundies to have absolutely no concept of control over their penises?

5/28/2011 4:28:01 AM

If they panic because a woman is present, I wonder if they will be able not to panic in front of another army of angry mad men. Brilliant future!!!!

5/28/2011 11:04:08 AM


"The Air Force, for example, established a mock prisoner of war camp to desensitize male recruits so they won't react like men when women prisoners scream under torture"




5/29/2011 5:28:25 AM

Princess Rot

There is a huge problem in society when one half of the population cannot relate to the other as people, but only as mobile sexual objects and annoying interferences. Nothing Robert has said will do anything about it, only make the forced segregation worse.

5/29/2011 9:09:15 AM


What the fuck? As far as I remember, Israel was the only country in the world with mandatory military service for women....

5/30/2011 1:49:03 AM

Citation needed. Also, Ziva David would like a word with you.

5/30/2011 4:29:51 PM


[Citation needed]

5/30/2011 5:58:45 PM



He's not saying they'd be aroused, he's saying they'd overeact and try to help the women in favour of the men- "can anyone suppose that male pilots will not now divert their efforts to protecting female pilots whenever possible?"

It's still sexist, but not as bad as some people on this site.

12/5/2011 6:20:43 AM

Crimson Lizard

And we should care about your ignorant, bigoted opinion... why?

1/21/2013 9:52:06 AM


If a man has his combat readiness reduced by a woman fighting on his side, then how the fuck is he going to deal with a fundamentalist whackjob willing to blow himself up because he thinks some god told him to do it?

1/21/2013 11:10:41 AM

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