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Maybe we belittle Genesis because, unlike alchemy and charioteering, people still literally believe in it's truths?
6/2/2011 3:38:37 AM
And lack therein. *
6/2/2011 3:39:07 AM
Please, please be a Poe.
6/2/2011 3:46:38 AM
Probably because there aren't millions of people defending alchemy.
6/2/2011 3:52:00 AM
But the Bible's meant to be the inerrant word of God, and God's meant to be omniscient. So when the Bible is full of glaring falsehoods that seems to have certain implications. The concept of atheists being parasites on Christianity is very peculiar. True, if every religion vanished, there would be no need for the label "atheism" any more, but we'd still believe the same things we do now. Stop trolling Pharyngula and go back to your creationist fantasy websites.
6/2/2011 3:52:09 AM
nor chemists berating the alchemists of yore for not knowing the intricacies of the Periodic Table
Oh yes, we do. We see Astronomers berating astrology nonsense, we see medical doctors berating homeopathy nonsense, we see rationalists berating esoteric nonsense (like "vitalized water"), and we see atheists berating fundie religionist nonsense.
Because astrology, homeopathy, esoteric quackery and biblical literalism are all irrational nonsense with obvious damaging effects nowadays.
Especially regarding "Alchemy": There are more than enough quacks running around, ripping off gullible people with snake oil products, selling them "ancient alchemy wisdom" or similiar blabber.
6/2/2011 4:01:06 AM
You don't even know that some words in our language come from French. Read something other than Christian forums.
6/2/2011 4:24:41 AM
Society isn't a kind of vacuum, where one religion disappears and another one rushes in. That's not how it works.
And I think you might actually hear modern chemists ridiculing the alchemists, for trying to turn base metals into gold. But hey, maybe that was just their "raisin date".
6/2/2011 4:27:44 AM
"raisin date" indeed.
My current pet hate is "penchant" which I now hear TV presenters in the UK pronouncing phonetically!!!
6/2/2011 4:29:44 AM
I have no raisin date as it is. Got a few prune figs and a currant apricot though.
6/2/2011 4:38:55 AM
Raisin date? Raisin date?
Ohhhh, "Raison d'etre"...
6/2/2011 4:53:23 AM
The mechanics and alchemists built upon their findings, corrected mistakes, and generally avoided removing themselves from reality whenever their original theories and designs were poked full of holes.
Genesis operates on the opposite principle, where anything that falls outside the first draft must be ignored at all costs lest the whole thing fall apart.
Boy but do we ever poke fun at the people who thought bleeding and leeches would cure disease. And the guys that thought heroin was good for babies? Classic, if horrifying.
Actually we can now turn mercury into gold. It's just not worth the cost or effort.
6/2/2011 4:53:36 AM
"...it have something not to believe in, and without which its has no raisin date."
6/2/2011 5:00:25 AM
Worst. ice-cream flavour. ever.
6/2/2011 5:05:56 AM
" yet you do see Atheist-Evolutionists dissecting Genesis 1 and highlighting any scientific innaccuracies. "
Funny thing: you don't see any scientific achemists trying to shut down chemistry class. You don't see any internal combustion chariotists claiming F1s don't work. But you do see fundie creationists claiming modern science disagrees with the myths of bronze age goat fuckers and is therefore wrong. I suggest you see a shrink. Or at least have someone explain to you how to do analogies.
Also, go date a raisin.
6/2/2011 5:15:45 AM
teh stupid just burns... and it reminds me of my Sixth Form chemistry teacher who I held in very high esteem until she said she beliefs in Intelligent Desgin.
6/2/2011 5:28:09 AM
I'd imagine people would soon turn against Alchemists if they started insisting Cancer was treated with a poultice of Mandrake root and Deathcap mushrooms
They'd also probably stop watching F1 if some of the teams entered chariots against the top of the range cars (actually that woud be awesome).
What I'm saying is, your beliefs are fine if you treat them like chariots and alchemists - interesting relics of the past. But you're proposing we teach children in school that they are the most modern and truthfull account of what we understand about the world. Which is just as bad as Ben Hur vs Jensen Button at the Monaco Grand Prix
6/2/2011 5:37:15 AM
"My current pet hate is "penchant" which I now hear TV presenters in the UK pronouncing phonetically!!!"
What do you mean "phonetically"? There are a lot of ways to pronounce that word "phonetically".
6/2/2011 5:48:56 AM
people driving chariots tried to make the vehicle faster, alchemist tried to develop and discover things ... early science paved the way for modern science.
What did the bible do for modern socienty? If it was for fundamentalists we'd still live in log cabins and die of plague and pox!
6/2/2011 5:59:39 AM
You're right about one thing. We will never learn.
That being said, PLEASE STOP BUGGING US!!!!!
6/2/2011 6:07:16 AM
If it was for fundamentalists we'd still live in log cabins and die of plague and pox!
Log cabins? Why when I was young we'd have thought a log cabin was Versailles! We lived in a mud hut and we were grateful for it!
Plague and pox?! Why when I was young no one dreamed of living long enough to catch plague and pox. My four brothers were eaten by wolverines before they were a year old! They weren't hungry enough to eat my sister so they just hollowed out her torso and spent the winter hibernating in her ribcage!
6/2/2011 6:14:59 AM
and without which its has no raisin date.
What is a raisin date?
Funny thing: you don't see F1 mechanics belittling ancient chariots, nor chemists berating the alchemists of yore for not knowing the intricacies of the Periodic Table, yet you do see Atheist-Evolutionists dissecting Genesis 1 and highlighting any scientific innaccuracies.
Mainly because we don't have people claiming that Formula 1 racers don't work but ancient chariots do, nor do we have people claiming that alchemy is a real science while chemistry is a false belief promoted by scientists in order to make people not believe that we can turn lead into gold. But we do have people claiming that Genesis is true while evolution is false.
And are you admitting that there are scientific inaccuracies in Genesis?
6/2/2011 6:20:55 AM
Naaah. Chemists berate the alchemists of yore for other reasons. :)
And by the way, I do believe in something: myself.
6/2/2011 6:27:20 AM
A mud hut? Luxury. When I was little, we had to live in the lake.
6/2/2011 6:37:42 AM
Yeah, but people don't still use chariots or alchemy numbnutz. And what the fuck is a "raisin date"?
6/2/2011 6:46:45 AM
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