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That's correct. No studying is necessary to know evolution is wrong.

One needs only to ask one question:

Post the evidence for evolution.

darwinists cannot do this, because there is none.

darwinists will say that there is evidence for evolution, but that's a lie.

Any 'evidence' a darwinist ever brings up, or ever can bring up, is always loaded with presuppositions and assumptions that evolution is true. Ergo, that is faith, not evidence.

No evidence for the claim that evolution is true = no reason to believe that evolution is true.

No studying is required to reach that conclusion. Indeed, anyone with common sense, and especially anyone with education in critical thinking, must inevitably reach that conclusion.

The only ones who wouldn't reach that conclusion are those who either have no common sense, and/or those who do not know how to think critically and/or those who know how to think critically but choose not to regarding darwinism.

Navaros, IMDB 55 Comments [6/29/2011 9:49:48 PM]
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Jeff_a_Guy

"Evolution requires other assumptions about our knowledge of the universe are true, so Evolution is wrong because that evidence doesn't support the things I believe in..."

6/29/2011 9:56:51 PM

Bobby Brown

Translation: LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

6/29/2011 9:57:07 PM

John_in_Oz

Wow, your argument totally blows away all those people who believe in Christianity!

6/29/2011 10:05:47 PM

Horus IX

Shiny Mirror and all that jazz.

6/29/2011 10:25:33 PM

Vince

Not reading or listening to the evidence doesn't make it go away.

It doesn't matter how tight you close your eyes, jam your fingers up you ears and hide under the bed crying. It's still there, and it can wait around a lot longer than you can stay down there.

6/29/2011 10:33:43 PM

thoth

It's difficult to know what to say, Navaros, when people like you choose to so blatantly disregard the findings of the scientific community. Do you not know how to read? Or do you just choose not to? Oh, right, your claim is that "No studying is required" to reach the conclusion that there is no evidence for evolution. Oddly enough, I agree with you there. The only people who could ever reach that conclusion are people who don't study.

6/29/2011 10:51:32 PM

Angua

The fossil record? Pseudogenes? The geographical distribution of species? The nested hierarchy of life? Vestigial organs? Observed instances of speciation? Embryology? None of these count as evidence for evolution?

Navaros, just because you didn't study to reach a conclusion about whether or not evolution is true, that doesn't mean the rest of us didn't. Just because you don't know about the evidence for evolution, doesn't mean that there isn't any -- it just means that you are lazy, ignorant, and incapable of critical thinking.

6/29/2011 11:06:18 PM

Dharmabum

I get so sick of this shit.

6/29/2011 11:15:02 PM



If you don't study Navaros, how are you able to critically assess the evidence you have been presented with? If you don't study genetics and molecular biology, how is it that you are able to critically assess genetic and molecular level evidence for evolution? If you don't study palaeontology, how can you critically assess physiological evidence from fossils? I could go on and on. And a last question: how much did you pay for your education in critical thinking? I wonder because it is clear you were fleeced.

6/29/2011 11:33:56 PM

Swede

No studying will make you think evolution is wrong.
Some studying will make you realise that it probably is right.
Extensive studying will make you certain that it's the only valid explanation.

The use of the word "darwinism" shows where on the scale you are, little Navaros.

6/29/2011 11:38:15 PM

Tempus

Indeed, anyone with common sense, and especially anyone with education in critical thinking, must inevitably reach that conclusion.

Common sense says that a spherical, three-dimensional object must only turn through 360 degrees to reach its original starting point.

Electrons are so perfectly spherical that an electron the size of the solar system would still be spherical to within the width of one human hair. And yet, an electron requires a complete rotation of 720 degrees to reach its original starting point.

In science, "common sense" is frequently completely ass-backwards wrong. The universe doesn't give a flying fuck what we think is right and proper. And people with critical thinking skills are the ones who discovered that.

I promise you that whatever's going on in your skull, critical thinking it isn't.

6/29/2011 11:57:25 PM

Sylvana

Wow, this is a special kind of ignorant.

Although I cant help but wonder what those 'presuppositions and assumptions' concerning the evidence specifically are. I would be really interested to find out. I expect it could be either spectacularly stupid, or kind of funny.

6/29/2011 11:59:27 PM

lisamariefan

In other words "Lalalalala! I can't hear you!"

Also, irony.

6/30/2011 12:11:45 AM

ChrisInManc

'One needs only to ask one question:'

Aw, and then he doesn't even get round to asking us this zinger :(

6/30/2011 12:20:41 AM



i think it is in fact quite difficult to explain evolution, because it's so goddamn obvious that it shouldn't need any explanation...

6/30/2011 12:28:14 AM

The_L

"Any 'evidence' a darwinist ever brings up, or ever can bring up, is always loaded with presuppositions and assumptions that evolution is true. Ergo, that is faith, not evidence."

Such a shiny, shiny mirror you've got there.

Also, am I the only one who, upon hearing/reading all this foolishness about "lol Darwinism wrong!!" wants to respond with "You mean Lamarck was right?"

6/30/2011 12:48:51 AM

Sadhuman

Navaros you are wrong, sometimes in life it happens. Normal people stop and think why was I wrong, how can I not be wrong again, I don't like being wrong so I will avoid doing it from now on. You seem to think if you deny reality hard enough then maybe you wont be wrong anymore. Sadly you are still in fact WRONG!

Evolution is how we got the living things around us today, no doubt about it. We understand it, we understand it very very well. The evidence for it is overwhelming, to a normal person that is. To someone who is unwilling to let go of their bible and to stop thinking everything in it is true 100%, no mistakes at all, the evidence has to be denied and lied about or their world will come crashing down around them.

But who are we kidding we will never change the minds of people like this, only they can. They are unable to let go of the doctrines and brainwashing from whatever church they attend. And the leaders are unwilling to admit they might be wrong out of fear of losing their flock...or their money and cushy life styles to be more exact. It is in their interest to keep the flock dumb and in line and never allow any of the outside changes to affect them.

6/30/2011 12:49:12 AM



You're accusations of lying are the height of hypocracy

6/30/2011 12:51:38 AM

Philbert McAdamia

> ... Ergo, that is faith, not evidence. <

So just what is it that you have against faith?


6/30/2011 1:10:33 AM

Godless heathen

One needs only to ask one question:

Post the evidence for creationism

Creationists cannot do this, because there is none.

Creationists will say that there is evidence for creationism, but that's a lie.

Any 'evidence' a creationist ever brings up, or ever can bring up, is always loaded with presuppositions and assumptions that creationism is true. Ergo, that is faith, not evidence.

No evidence for the claim that the bible is true = no reason to believe that the bible is true.

No studying is required to reach that conclusion. Indeed, anyone with common sense, and especially anyone with education in critical thinking, must inevitably reach that conclusion.

The only ones who wouldn't reach that conclusion are those who either have no common sense, and/or those who do not know how to think critically and/or those who know how to think critically but choose not to regarding creationism.

There. Fixed it for you

6/30/2011 1:15:13 AM

Raving Reporter

Definitive collection of rules to follow when one is a drooling zombie and wishes to communicate with other drooling zombies or with potential drooling zombie material.

Rule 1. Always blatantly lie as loudly and as often as possible. Wildly claim that the reverse of reality is the actuality. Never be ashamed of your own festering gullibility. Deliver all untruths with total conviction, as though you were neither a blathering simpleton nor a mendacious primitive. It's acceptable to lie for Jesus. No shame need be displayed, no embarrassment felt and there should be no concern for the good reputation of your character. Revel in your superstition and ignorance.

Rule 2. Always blatantly lie as loudly and as often as possible. Wildly claim that the reverse of reality is the actuality. Never be ashamed of your own festering gullibility. Deliver all untruths with total conviction, as though you were neither a blathering simpleton nor a mendacious primitive. It's acceptable to lie for Jesus. No shame need be displayed, no embarrassment felt and there should be no concern for the good reputation of your character. Revel in your superstition and ignorance.

Rule 3. Always blatantly lie ...... ad infinitum.

6/30/2011 1:23:28 AM

GrammarTroll

I know this is nitpicky on a ridiculous scale, but that -> "Post the evidence for evolution" is not a question.

6/30/2011 1:24:22 AM

shykid

Wow, all you have to do is replace "darwinists" and "evolution" with "creationists" and "creationism," and it's perfectly reasonable.

6/30/2011 1:48:13 AM

jerenept

Wow, all you have to do is replace "darwinists" and "evolution" with "creationists" and "creationism," and it's perfectly reasonable.
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Thread sux, fundy is a troll.

6/30/2011 2:04:55 AM

Jubba the Mad

Poe surely? tell me no one could write this without realising its describing religion?

6/30/2011 2:19:44 AM
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