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Most old line Mexican American families resent this invasion on several grounds such as they should look to their own Mexican government for answers in Mexico. They know that illegal immigration is unfair to those trying legally to enter the U. S. with visas and work permits. They know this invasion of U.S. territory will damage U.S. and Mexican relations and could diminish their own accepted status as Hispanics in the U.S. They know that the Mexican government is encouraging the invasion, thus Mexico is an aggressor nation coming in a Trojan Horse as a trading partner and friend of the U.S. in order to invade with over 12, 000,000 of their citizens and even with occasional incursions by armed Mexican Troops.

Another complication in this invasion is the support for such invasion by radical priests within the Catholic Church on both sides of the border as well as some misguided protestant ministers. These radicals try to preach that the immigrants are all God’s children simply trying to earn money to feed their families. The answer to that false argument is that being God’s children does not give them the right to steal or to violate the laws of others of God’s children and violates the Ten Commandments as well as the admonition that those who do not provide for their own are worse than infidels. It is the job of the Mexican government, their people and their churches to provide for their own and not to encourage their own citizens to invade a neighboring Country to violate their laws and plunder and steal their jobs, money and to take over their government. Such action is the age old historic reason for most wars.

Encourage your local Sheriff to do his legal duty for those who elected him. Offer men to be deputised by the Sheriff to assist him in this task and insist that the County Commissioners provide the funds needed for the apprehension, arrest, detainment and eventually the expulsion of these invaders. We the people within our counties can pass our own county ordinances if need be regardless of the failure of the Federal government to control the immigration problem. Our Sheriffs can enforce these ordinances.

southernpartysw, http://southernpartysw.tripod.com/id113.html 21 Comments [6/26/2011 3:42:17 AM]
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Percy Q. Shunn

Please, just admit that you are feverishly masturbating at the thought of being "deputized" and granted the power to enforce what you perceive to be immigration law.

6/26/2011 4:13:39 AM

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blah blah blah, xenophobic drivel, trash, more blah blah blah, with a whopping evangelical finish - power trip combo...

how can they actually claim that immigration laws are biblical? it makes no sense... *on which website am i? neeeeeevermind*

6/26/2011 4:43:39 AM

Veras_the_Brujah

As Maddox so cleverly put it:

6/26/2011 5:27:02 AM

jsonitsac

Local sheriffs have no power, under the Constitution, to enforce border control laws (regardless of what Joe Arpio thinks). That is a power reserved solely to the federal government.

As for being "invaders," they didn't cross the border, the border crossed them.

6/26/2011 5:49:24 AM

agrf

i don think this belongs to rstdt they put forward a postive attitude about legally registering immagrints this should be in the conspiracy section

6/26/2011 6:12:11 AM

aaa

I can't believe how badly this whole pile of festering shit has been written. I can't find a single thing about it that isn't irredeemably terrible.

6/26/2011 7:06:09 AM

StoneSpiral

While I agree that 'illegal immigration' is well.. *illegal* and it has a negative impact on any country that has a problem with illegal immigrants(Refugees not included), *but* they're hardly taking jobs that most people want. They're working fields, cleaning bathrooms etc and being treated like crap by 'employers'. It's not a conspiracy, they have a shitty government and not many options.

All in all, I'd much rather the Mexican government grow a pair and do something for its people so they can be happy and successful in their home country.

6/26/2011 7:58:25 AM

Lucilius

Unless you wanna go pick all your own food, or pay triple the current price, STFU. Actually, just STFU anyway.

6/26/2011 9:27:58 AM

nazani14

I do think there are Catholic priests who are pleased to have more Catholic immigrants, legal or not. I also think that Protestants who oppose reproductive rights are trying to enlist Hispanics in their cause. All the more reason for sane people to strictly uphold separation of church and state.

6/26/2011 10:19:50 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Ah, fundie (complaining about liberal churches), conspiracy theorist (claiming that Mexico wants to destroy the United States) and racist (well, this one goes without saying). I think we have a trifecta, folks.

6/26/2011 11:44:57 AM

His4Life

What is racist about this?

6/26/2011 3:22:44 PM

aaa

@His4Life: This is pretty much more conspiracy oriented stuff, but here's some things since you can't read things like subtext.

Basically, this person is demonizing mexicans as some form of invading malcontents with a bone to pick. However, he fails to understand that mexicans are real people with usually have a fairly good reason to come to the USA. Therefore, he claims that the mexican government is secretly backing and in order to support that story, he claims things that have never really happened.

Despite that all jobs have more or less gone to countries with either a better and/or cheaper workforce, he blames it all on a disenfranchised underclass rather than the corporations using their rather unstupid heads and cost cutting measures that make the government less able to do basic shit properly. You may have not detected this because racism in this hides behind a thin veil of ambiguity, achieved by mentioning "the good ones", giving that veiled racism an air of legitimacy. Then again, quite a many people don't know it's racist unless it has a non-ambiguous racial slur.

6/26/2011 4:59:40 PM

mathius_dragoon

You started out strong, at least distinguishing between legal and illegal immigrants, but then...

secret invasion? -never happened
incursion by Mexican troops? - yet the 24 news channels had nothing to say on this.
10 commandments?- Have no legal bearing on immigration law.

County ordinances?- You don't know how federalism works very well do you?

edit: I forgot to add - Trifecta!

6/26/2011 7:05:38 PM

Zipperback

People will be inclined to cross borders from their current country to a better country, sort like geopolitical osmosis.

Once the Mexican government started providing for it's own southernpartysw would shit himself since "providing" would likely include explosive, Chinese Scale economic expansion pressing harder on our NIMBY crippled, top heavy economy.

Heh... county enforced ordinances. These people cross national borders. I don't think dodging a few county lines in order to muddle jurisdiction will really be a challenge.

6/27/2011 7:33:50 AM

Doubting Thomas

These radicals try to preach that the immigrants are all God’s children simply trying to earn money to feed their families.

Yeah, they're not coming here trying to find work to support their families, they're only coming here to destroy our country and way of life!

Actually, I think we have a trifecta! Racism, a little conspiracy, and religion.

@Those not seeing the racism in this

Do you think that the OP would call it an "invasion" if it were white Canadians coming south across the border looking for work?

6/27/2011 8:02:14 AM

Fpqxz

I acknowledge that illegal immigration is problematic, not just in the United States, but in all the countries in which it happens. Uncontrolled immigration forces wages down, increases competition for jobs (which are already scarce in many places), and promotes crime, exploitation, and overcrowding. It is not solely an American issue.

If Americans really want to stop it, here is what the U.S. government should do:

1. Increase the fines and penalties for both businesses AND individuals who employ undocumented workers.

2. Put more resources toward enforcing existing immigration laws, not only at the border but everywhere.

3. If the country still needs foreign labor for certain jobs (e.g. agricultural labor, meat packing, etc.), create a guest worker program that would allow businesses to hire foreign workers without a lot of red tape.

4. If deportation of illegal immigrants who are currently here would be too costly or difficult, provide some sort of pathway to legal residency and/or citizenship (as Obama and several others have suggested.

Boom. Problem solved.

6/27/2011 4:26:52 PM

Unbeliever

What Fpqxz said.

Illegal immigration is a problem - because it is, by definition, illegal. There are reasonable and straightforward solutions to it.

Yet again, it is politics. We should not expect anything reasonable and straightforward.

6/28/2011 6:23:20 AM



Sorry man, but being an illegal inmigrant is not against the ten commandments. Did you ever think about that?

6/29/2011 3:06:53 AM



A pity that your ancestors were not seen that way by the Native Americans.

6/29/2011 3:09:48 AM

Fawful has seen God has a vagina on top of his penis.

Inb4 people who say illegal immingrants are breaking the law, think again.

If you see a brown-colored person in the street:

a) No one would ask him/her "excuse me, are you an illegal immigrant?"

b) Although being in the country is in fact illegal, no one has the right to throw them to jail for stupid reasons. I recall a jail in Arizona(?) that houses Mexican illegals who were arrested even for driving without their licenses. And to top that, they were forced to wear pink uniforms/underwear.

c) There's a difference between legality and justice. This means that even if someone is an illegal immigrant, they should be sent to jail for a good reason, like, oh, I don't know, wearing guns on public (the GOP's favorite hobby).

As for them being invaders, do they behave themselves like soldiers? Have they attacked key strategic positions? Have they bombed a city? No? Then they're not invaders. Also, as jsonitsac said, the border crossed them, not the other way around.

6/29/2011 5:19:51 PM

Anon

Eh, this one isn't so bad. The first paragraph was pretty reasonable, with the exception of the "old-line" part and the last sentence.

I'm against illegal immigration, but I still know they're human beings and that the do the jobs that other people don't want. What I believe is that employers should educate them on how to get access to work visas.

I do believe we need immigration reform, like for some people who are in the country legally but can't get citizenship because of red tape and catch 22s, and the INS is a bureaucratic mess. The reason why it takes years to get citizenship isn't because you have to pass all these tests, it's because it takes that long for them to actually get your information and process it, even if you qualify for a green card through marriage.

EDIT: Damn, Stone Spiral said it before me.

6/30/2011 6:40:30 PM
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