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Logical proof of evidence for God and creation. (And a universe full of it.)

Question to atheist # 1: If the statement is true, "God created the genetic code and DNA to create life", would the genetic code and DNA be evidence for God? ...If your answer is "no", how and why would it NOT be valid evidence of God (while noting that if God created the genetic code, nothing else did)?

(Hint: The answer to the above is "yes", because the genetic code and DNA as potential evidence for anything else would be 100% falsified, when we have objective proof that God is/was its author.)

Question to atheist # 2: Do you have 100% objective proof that God *didn't* create the genetic code and DNA to create life? If "yes", please provide your proof with zero speculative language.

(Hint: No such proof exists.)

Question to atheist # 3: Aside from the genetic code and DNA, can you name a SINGLE code (that meets the following definition), that was NOT designed by an intelligent being?

...Definition of CODE for our purposes above: Sequential, *meaningful* information is encoded (DNA) and decoded (RNA). Such as English. Binary code. Morse code. Etc.

Note that ALL evidence, either for "naturalism" or "creationism" is in a POTENTIAL state, until the objective proof is in, as to which "suspect" is responsible.

...This is why it's logically impossible to claim that we do NOT have a mountain of evidence for God and creation; this is why ALL OF CREATION is evidence for God.

Further, unless you can provide another example of a code that was NOT created by an intelligent being under the definition provided, we have 100% inference that the genetic code and DNA was created by an intelligent being. And 0% inference that it was a result of naturalistic, mindless, Godless causation.

Note that this is in NO WAY begging the question, or a circular argument, because we're assuming based on logic that *both* naturalism and creationism are theoretical possibilities. And that all of creation is evidence (in a required "potential" state), until the objective proof is in.

Thanks for reading.

goldliger, Evolution Fairytale 54 Comments [6/27/2011 2:36:28 AM]
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Thanks for reading what? Did you say something?

6/28/2011 10:06:43 PM

Your argument is like a dog that tries to bite its own tail. You say, "if the statement is true.............". Ok, how do we know that it's true?. The burden of proof still lies on you.

6/29/2011 3:01:45 AM


Q1. First prove that this "God" character exists. Then provide evidence that he in fact did create the genetic code and DNA. Then we can talk about the rest. M'kay?

Q2. False dicotomy, stupid. Do you have 100% objective proof that Shiva did NOT create the Universe?

Q3. I don't think DNA and RNA meets your specifics for *meaningful* information. It's just a series of amino acids.

It SO is begging the question. You have provided no evidence whatsoever for that God of yours, and no evidence to exclude all other gods and goddesses.

6/29/2011 7:07:33 AM


All of those questions are logical fallacies. The first question doesn't even make sense.

6/30/2011 6:27:36 PM

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