Whaaaaaaaaah, it's not fair, why wont they let us oppress people? Why are we being persecuted like this? Wahhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Can we send them to their room until they learn to play nicely with others?
6/30/2011 9:31:52 AM
@Argle Bargle : actually, I'm pretty sure bigotry will win in the end, as the United States are sinking into decline. Doesn't make them any more right, though.
6/30/2011 9:40:47 AM
thank you for your tireless efforts here in New York. We are ready to move to the next stage of the fight.
Damn you bigots are persistent! If only you applied all of that effort to eliminating poverty (Like a certain Jew repeatedly told you to do 2000 years ago!) we might have one of the best standards of living, the lowest rates of abortion, and, the lowest crime rates, and the highest marks for overall health in the entire world, if not THE best. Instead our economy is shit, our education system is shit, and we're behind on a number of social issues and metrics of well-being. Way to make yourselves worse than useless.
6/30/2011 10:25:08 AM
It was legislation passed by a vote of the public, nitwit.
I suspect that when we look back on this we will view you and your ilk as ignorant, scared, little a**holes standing in the way of freedom.
6/30/2011 10:35:48 AM
I'm pretty sure bigotry will win in the end, as the United States are sinking into decline
So what if the US is in decline? That doesn't necessarily mean bigotry will win. Many superpowers throughout history have become non-superpowers and yet social justice has increased. For example, when was the last time the Dutch were a superpower? And yet they're fairly liberal compared to the US at any point in its time as a superpower. The entire English empire fell apart until they were back to being just a couple of islands off the coast of Europe and they seemed to manage. I think the media being saturated with these bigots only hurts their cause and that (like the interracial marriage issue) they're only being loud and obnoxious because they know they're losing. You underestimate how much the general public in the US values freedom.
6/30/2011 10:40:56 AM
You think of yourself too highly. Please deflate your ego.
6/30/2011 10:43:35 AM
You got that from a Michael Bay movie, there's no way you could possibly know what that admiral said.
6/30/2011 11:04:39 AM
Your Constitution guarantees that the will of the majority cannot be used to oppress the minority.
6/30/2011 11:29:57 AM
Note that according to Bonnie, the democratic process is only democratic if the elected officials do what she wants them to do. If they do something else, it's dictatorship.
6/30/2011 11:43:54 AM
That list of things you morons won't let stand just keeps getting longer and longer.
6/30/2011 12:21:55 PM
[This was forced on the people of New York against our will...]
It's not forced on them if they voted for it. Even if you didn't vote for it on a ballot, you still voted for the guys in office.
6/30/2011 12:52:11 PM
58% of the state supported gay marriage. Against "our" will? I think not.
When you mean "our", I think you mean backwards, bigoted fucktards like you, Bonnie.
6/30/2011 5:15:52 PM
I really don't understand why this is being taken so seriously. Who cares what adults want to do to each other behind closed doors? Who cares if they want to be bound to each other in some sort of union? That's their business and their problem. Mind your own business!
6/30/2011 5:18:30 PM
Most citizens of New York--including myself--wanted same-sex marriage. It was in no way "forced" on New York State. You fail.
6/30/2011 8:11:40 PM
58% of the state supported gay marriage.
And to a normal person a 16% differential would make them STFU and pursue something that's not a total lost cause for them. Hell, even a simple majority (like in the Bush election) will make most people accept the results even if they don't like them. Not fundies though, nope. They can go up against a 90% majority and claim to be working for the will of the people. It must feel nice to have that much confidence in what they believe in but it comes at the cost of being completely unable to assess the situation realistically and prohibits them from ever changing their mind.
6/30/2011 9:20:32 PM
Bonnie, no one is forcing you to do a damned thing. What you are trying to do is force your bronze age mentality on everyone.
6/30/2011 9:45:44 PM
Dr. Steve Brule
I suppose she is right in a way; the sleeping giant in question being 6'8 daddy bear wearing a Fire Island muscle shirt.......
6/30/2011 10:15:41 PM
@dionysus : the decaying European powers have had two World Wars to knock some common sense and humility into them. The US have no such thing going for them. They're falling, Western Roman Empire style.
7/1/2011 2:39:05 AM
/This was forced on the people of New York against our will (per the usual for this agenda) and we will not let it stand./
Forced on us against our will, huh? That must be why so many people (homosexual and straight) were cheering and partying after this law was passed. That must be why a majority of New Yorkers (myself included) support same-sex marriage. That must be why our state senate and state assembly, both of which are comprised of people legally elected by New Yorkers, followed every legal procedure by voting to pass this bill.
But if a state votes to deprive its own citizens of legal rights and protections and officially declares them third-class citizens in everything but name, THAT'S not forcing anything on people "against their will?" Oh, no, not when it's something that YOU want. Not when it's being horrible to people that you don't like. Shut up, you stupid, patronizing hypocrite. And that goes for all the members of your precious NOM as well.
/I suspect that when we look back on this we will see that this was the moment when the people of this state (and this country) got a giant wake-up call./
Yes, this will be the moment when scores of people will justifiably say, "What the heck took you so long?" Or, if they're more cynical, they may say, "What was the big deal? The whole country should have taken care of that ages ago. Why on earth did it have to be state-approved rather than federally-approved?"
/It reminds me of something a certain Japanese Admiral said after the attack on Pearl Harbor:/
...So, let me get this straight.
You're comparing the passage of a bill which would extend legal rights and protections to a greater amount of people to a horrible act of terrorism that killed hundreds of people?
Why don't you just throw your arm across your forehead and moan, "Woe is me!" already? Dear lord, SHUT UP.
7/1/2011 8:37:17 AM
Whoa there, let's not be so hasty. I don't think that you would have said that the US was falling ten years ago. I don't think that Bush, who is not even in office anymore, could ruin the country so much and so permanently in such a short time. You underestimate the effect of globalism. Yes, Americans have not experienced any catastrophes on par with the two world wars, but since the younger generation (of which I am a part) generally have more access to what people outside of the US think than their parents and grandparents did, I say, wait a few more decades before deciding that the United States is doomed. It took about 200 years for the Western Roman Empire to decline past the point of no return. It's only been 10 years since these fundies started becoming heard.
7/1/2011 8:57:41 AM
Or more probably, nothing will happen.Your point?
7/2/2011 8:05:49 AM
"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve"
Quote mine all you want, Bonnie (and Pearl Harbour =/= Civil Rights), but the simple fact is this: Your time - as the dominant paradigm - is over
. Your light is dying.
As it was with attitudes before the Civil Rights movement, pre-Rosa Parks - and what happened afterwards
. NAACP and ACLU ring any bells?
As it is with the new
Civil Rights Movement today, re. LGBT people (emphasis added):
'It is like a monster: if you walk by it quietly enough, it'll just open an eyelid and sniff at you. But if you awaken it...!
-Kenneth Aubrey (Freddie Jones), "Firefox"
One word: Stonewall.
7/2/2011 11:06:51 AM