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Quote# 82346

The law provides exemptions for pastors, religious institutions and non-profit corporations affiliated with religious organizations, but The New York Times suggests those are unnecessary. So Matt Barber of Liberty Counsel Action advises the Times to take a closer look at the Constitution.

Mainly, he notes "our First Amendment rights of free speech and freedom of religious expression. This is troubling, but not surprising that The New York Times is once again publicly...editorializing about the need to trample on individuals' religious liberties," he laments.

Barber goes on to argue that the religious exemptions are worthless, as the only intent for their inclusion was to convince fence-sitting senators to vote for the legalization.

"The true motivation here is not for marriage equality; the true motivation is to, under penalty of law, ensure that all Americans are compelled to embrace the demonstrably destructive and immoral homosexual lifestyle," the attorney points out.


In order to accomplish that, any opposition must be silenced. In truth, Barber does not think the religious exemption goes far enough because it does not protect individual people of faith, especially those in business who oppose homosexuality.



Matt Barber, One News Now 56 Comments [7/3/2011 4:07:03 AM]
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Yownanymous

So, the tl;dr version is effectively: I want the law to suit me and my bullshit, so much so that I will cross my own arguments repeatedly.

7/3/2011 4:35:06 AM

SurfinSeaOtter

I'm not totally sure what he means

7/3/2011 4:43:27 AM

Murdin

Those are valid English words, arranged in grammatically correct sentences. That's the absolute best I could say about that thing.

7/3/2011 5:04:39 AM

Pule Thamex

All part of the desperate spinning and ineffectual floundering of the ghastly busybody who wants to tell people what to do so that everyone will be in total accord with his very own obsessions, dislikes and likes. The sort of bigoted moron who considers democracy an affront to his sensibilities when it doesn't work in his personal favour.

7/3/2011 5:08:34 AM

Raised by Horses

@Murdin

It's amazing, the things we can do with technology these days. In this case, we have achieved fundie whole-brain emulation, using the principle behind text generators.

Though perhaps that's not saying much.

7/3/2011 5:18:24 AM

Mudak

Exhibit number 10,638,532 why respect for religious beliefs must be earned and not demanded. (Just like respect in all others realms of life.)

7/3/2011 5:50:57 AM

Brandy Bogard


7/3/2011 5:52:53 AM



Okay, so he says the religious exemptions don’t work. Can he explain why he thinks they don’t work?

7/3/2011 5:54:03 AM

Meisha

And I read:

Blah, blah blah whine about homosexuality blah blah blah, blah blah. Blah blah blah, we are wronged because marriage is between a man and a woman blah blah blah businesses who oppose homosexuality blah.

7/3/2011 5:59:29 AM



Not being allowed to discriminate against others does not mean you're being discriminated against

7/3/2011 6:05:57 AM

Berny

The funny part is that I'm old enough to remember the very same arguments being used to deny African Americans equal rights.
I especially love the line "the demonstrably destructive and immoral homosexual lifestyle." Where is the evidence for this? If it's "demonstrably destructive" you should have mountains of it. So far, the most destructive aspects of being gay are the repulsive and hateful actions of sanctimonious assholes such as Matt Barber.

7/3/2011 6:10:01 AM

Doubting Thomas

OK then, if the religious exemptions are worthless, why don't we repeal that part of the law and force churches to perform gay weddings?

7/3/2011 6:39:00 AM

Horsefeathers

The first in what is sure to be a long series of bitch and moan sessions from those who didn't get their way.

Boo. Hoo.

Suck it up, asshole. Society is moving on with or without you.

7/3/2011 6:44:06 AM

M

"demonstrably destructive and immoral homosexual lifestyle"

Explain to me how being gay (which, btw, isn't so much a lifestyle choice but a sexual desire to those of your same sex/gender) is destructive. I won't bother with immoral, 'cause you'll trot out the bible.

Also, business people don't perform marriages, so I don't even know how that comment is at all related to a bill -- now a law -- legalizing gay marriage.

7/3/2011 6:52:12 AM

TGRwulf

Wow. Using a whole lot of words to say a whole lot of nothing.

7/3/2011 7:41:36 AM



I understand what all of the words *mean*, but I don't have the least idea what you're getting at, Matt.

7/3/2011 7:44:04 AM

jerenept

Word salad needs moar lettuce.

7/3/2011 8:27:12 AM

Big Jilm

That's right, mother fucker. We are going to force you to buttfuck! That's what this is "really" about. You got us -you fingered us out! Can't pull nuffin on you fucksticks!

7/3/2011 9:05:58 AM

Alethe

For the last fucking time: gays in NY can no more force anyone to eeeeew than you can force Muslims, Atheists or Buddhists to embrace Jesus. All they can do now they couldn't do before is marry legally instead of living together without having their union recognized. Period.

7/3/2011 9:10:04 AM

Cousin Id

@M: He thinks that a businessman who offers spousal benefits to married employees should be allowed to refuse such benefits to employees in same-sex marriages if Jesus tells him to.

7/3/2011 9:15:52 AM

shykid



Offering spousal benefits to heterosexual couples is "against my religion." Where's my exemption to the law?

7/3/2011 10:18:05 AM

breakerslion

"...(T)he true motivation is to, under penalty of law, ensure that all Americans are compelled to embrace the demonstrably destructive and immoral homosexual lifestyle,"

Well, I guess it's time to short-sell your Wal-Mart stock and buy Macy's. Looks like we'll all be dressing and decorating upscale soon!

7/3/2011 10:29:29 AM



Exemption, law and other stupid ingredients for a word salad.

7/3/2011 10:34:10 AM

Sam

Fred Phelps has gotten to say ungodly(jokes!) vicious things about homosexuality for like 30 years, but anytime he gets into legal trouble, he comes out of it fine. You know why? Because the first amendment says that he has the right to oppose homosexuality.


What the FUCK is it that you plan on doing that's worse than Fred Phelps' antics?

7/3/2011 12:18:19 PM

Whitleylad

Please get over it. Gays can marry get over it! It really does not affect you so move on.

Religion may not like it, but hell there are lots of us whom religion is a carbuncle on the backside of humanity, yet it still continues.

7/3/2011 12:21:49 PM
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