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Actually, the US would be within Constitutional rights to ban atheists from all aspects of Constitutional government since they don’t acknowledge that we have God-given rights.

That is how the Founders thought and Atheists were marginalized and not allowed to testify in court. We should get back to the Founding principles of this country which includes Absolute Truth and God. Everyone who doesn’t acknowledge that are free to leave and join those atheist or pagan countries that have been so inferior and created the annihilation of 100’s of millions of human beings, plus abortion “rights” and “euthanasia” and homosexual “rights” where there is no sexual morality...since they don’t believe man is anything more that a “trousered ape”.

savagesusie, Free Republic 106 Comments [7/10/2011 5:27:35 AM]
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C_V


y'know, susie, I would SO move to Sweden in an instant, but they wouldn't take me.

your fantasy about who has killed more people is, of course, biased in your own favor. I don't believe you're a woman anyway, just some fat, moronic, internet tough-guy who lives in his mom's basement and spends all his time ranting on things you know nothing about.

7/10/2011 5:32:38 AM

Sweet Fancy Moses

"Atheists were marginalized and not allowed to testify in court."

Citation needed.

7/10/2011 5:37:35 AM

Aspergus

What's that thing in our Constitution about not having any religious test as prerequisite for positions in government?

And I'd gladly choose to live in one of those atheist/pagan countries over the kind of theocratic hellhole you're envisioning. Luckily, our First Amendment prevents you from ever achieving that. If you want to establish a Christian version of Saudi Arabia, then maybe you and your fellow freepers should go find and claim for yourselves some remote island somewhere.

7/10/2011 5:44:09 AM

cdcdrr

Freedom of Religion =/= Freedom of Christianity.

The funny thing about that Freedom of Religion thing is that it protects people's beliefs from persecution, ridicule and discrimination. That also goes for atheism. So no, the US does not have the right by its Constitution to discriminate against atheists. I dare you to test this, then see the constitutional court strike down this idiotic notion once and for all.

7/10/2011 6:01:47 AM

Meisha

Susie, honey, you do know about the Tripoli Treaty of 1797 don't you? In the document it states that the United States is not founded on Christianity. I know that's going to blow up your little Jesus Bubble that you have been living in for so long.

7/10/2011 6:15:26 AM

Tempura

She's on a roll. I hope she remembers to eat.

BRING ON THE TRUTH SISTER!

7/10/2011 6:17:11 AM

Doctor Whom

You're free to leave and join your dream country, Uganda.

7/10/2011 6:26:16 AM

Pule Thamex

Bible God is the Father of Lies. How do we know? Because His unscrupulous worshipers imagine that they have a God given right to lie on the slightest of pretexts, so long as the lies serve in bolstering the image of their Bible God or allows them to openly express their gnashing insanity.

We know that fundamental cultists have miniscule quantities of humane traits, but their colossal gullibility, their enormous reserves of bigotry and their huge lashings of frothing savagery in no way make up for this deleterious shortfall.

Fundie Mottoes:-

Living the lie. Until we die.

God loves a liar. God hates a denier.

We are fundies, we are off our heads.
We must make sure that we take our meds.

Gullibility is a thing of beauty.
To persecute minorities is our solemn duty.

7/10/2011 6:42:21 AM



Actually, the US would be within Constitutional rights to ban atheists from all aspects of Constitutional government since they don’t acknowledge that we have God-given rights.

Actually, no. Not at all. The First Ammendment and the third paragraph of the Sixth Article strongly disagree with your statement.

7/10/2011 7:02:19 AM

emau99

Uh...Susie?

The Constitution doesn't say that we have God-given rights, either.

7/10/2011 7:03:09 AM

John_in_Oz

"...they don’t believe man is anything more that a “trousered ape”."
Oh Susie, my opinion of you is not that high.

7/10/2011 7:07:24 AM

Brain_In_A_Jar

Everyone who doesn’t acknowledge that are free to leave

Yes, this is true. Everyone is entirely free to leave their career and their home and their family and their friends and their culture and their commitments and their dreams and go somewhere else. There'll always be affordable housing somewhere else, there'll always be jobs somewhere else that use the same skills you've got now, and the locals will always cheerfully welcome, with open arms, immigrants who want to enter their housing market and their workforce and can't speak the language and don't know their culture.

Seriously, the next time anybody glibly trots out the old "you can always go somewhere else" thing, I may actually commit murder.

7/10/2011 7:10:01 AM

Anon2

Actually, the US would be within Constitutional rights to ban atheists from all aspects of Constitutional government since they don’t acknowledge that we have God-given rights. [...] We should get back to the Founding principles of this country which includes Absolute Truth and God. Everyone who doesn’t acknowledge that are free to leave ...

"savagesusie", I'm not a US citizen. But here in Germany, there are some first signs of fundies who also want to transform the german state into a christian theocratic nightmare. So what I have to say applies analogous to the US, where the problem of radical fundies seems to be much worse than here.

"savagesusie", first of all thank you for revealing your agenda. Now we know for sure what we suspected for long. And believe me: I won't leave and go somewhere else. I won't do you the favour. I won't let people like you run amok and destroy every value that we hold in highest esteem. Values like liberty, freedom, human rights.

Go ahead, try to transform the world into a christian nightmare. But prepare for fierce resistance. As a german, I know from our history what a paranoid dictatorship means. I don't want to live again under a paranoid dictatorship. Yes, your beloved christian theocracy would mean a paranoid dictatorship. The result of a christian theocracy armed with nuclear weapons would be in the worst case hundreds of millions of annihilated innocent human beings, who had to die for your alleged "Absolute Truth and God".

7/10/2011 7:23:19 AM

Raised by Horses

Sure, Susie, sure. You just go ahead and actually find us that passage in the Constitution where it says that.

Go on, we'll wait.

7/10/2011 7:32:04 AM



And these dimbulbs think *they're* the ones being persecuted?

We don't have God-given rights. We have man-given rights. We had to ammend our constitution to give rights to women and minorities.

7/10/2011 7:42:56 AM

LDM

Imaginary Constitutions don't count.

7/10/2011 8:11:19 AM

farpadokly

Savagesusie is living in a complete fantasy world, with only the barest connection to reality. She is really not far away from schizophrenia, in believing that reality and history are all on the side of her personal prejudices.

7/10/2011 8:13:09 AM

sandchigger

Our rights are:

A. Constitutional
B. God-given

Please choose one.

7/10/2011 8:21:14 AM

breakerslion

"Absolute Truth and God."

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Please sappysusie, stop! I can't breathe! You're killing me!

@ Pule Thamex:

You left out, "The end justifies the means," which is also a tenet of "Natural Law" theory (unjust laws serving a higher moral purpose).

7/10/2011 8:25:33 AM

John

Where in the Constitution does it say you have to acknowledge "God-given rights", whatever the heck they are, in order to be covered by the Constitution?

"That is how the Founders thought and Atheists were marginalized and not allowed to testify in court."

That wasn't done by the Founding Fathers. That was done by a handful of the original 13 states, and mostly against holding state elected office, not testifying. The Founding Fathers specifically forbid the application of religious tests for national office. Such laws violate both the 1st Amendment, and because they would prevent someone from calling an atheist as a witness for their defense, the 6th Amendment as well.

7/10/2011 8:36:40 AM

DevilsChaplain

Torcaso v. Watkins. Read it and weep, Suze.

7/10/2011 8:40:58 AM

Percy Q. Shunn


7/10/2011 8:44:09 AM

The Watcher

Actually, the US would be within Constitutional rights to ban atheists from all aspects of Constitutional government since they don’t acknowledge that we have God-given rights.

Article VI, paragraph 3:

"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

7/10/2011 8:49:32 AM

wysage

Apes, with or without trousers, are far more moral than lying christians.

7/10/2011 8:54:12 AM



Misinterpret the Bible however you wish, since it's most likely written by sheepherders experimenting with shrooms.

But don't you dare defile the Constitution with your prejudices; it's a great document written with noble intentions by people whose greatness you can't even hope to approach.

7/10/2011 8:59:51 AM
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