The Grand Canyon's sedimentary rock layers are horizontal and even, if there were to be millions of years the layers would not be even because after a layer is layed down, it starts eroding, which does not leave a horizontal surface. So there is a problem with millions of years because the layers are horizontal and a catastrophic flood fits perfectly into the Grand Canyon because layers rapidly layed down would leave a horizontal layers! So the biblical flood must be true.
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They're not perfectly horizontal and even. They're layers stacked upon each other and therefore are horizontal.
But even if they were, it wouldn't be a proof for any parti hoar creation myth, including yours.
NO, your reasoning is incorrect.
The scientific method: fit your theory to your evidence.
The creationist method: fit your evidence to your theory.
Btw, God created us in his own image, so he must be the fat ugly type:
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Yes, the layers are horizontal... As opposed to being vertical? What?
They aren't perfectly leveled as you seem to think, they show clear signs of slow erosion.
Flooding an area doesn't segment soil in clear layers. And even if it did, how do you explain the hard limestone and sandstone, that show the exact same layering and erosion?
For the Grand Canyon to get washed out by a flood as described in the babble (time ~ 1 year), the rocks would need to have the solubility of granulated sugar.
Calculating it with the normal erosion rate of rocks under streaming water, the Grand Canyon is very easily explained as the result of erosion taking place over several million years.
So the biblical flood must be a fairy tale.
The fucking Grand Canyon, how does it work?
And this, kiddies, has been today's moment in "I don't understand shit, therefore Bible-god."
Fundies need to be told about the Scablands. They actually were caused by a flood eroding soil, so if creationists' flood actually occurred, more places (i.e. the whole world) would look like the Scablands.
You mean other than the great uncomformity and the two minor ones right? Also, all the rocks exposed show absolutly every single sign of being of shallow marine or or sand dune in origin. But hey, I wasn't there right, who cares about evidence when you have the word of bronze age semi literate nomads.
Must be. I've always said that whenever I hear someone utter the words "Hocus Pocus", I feel a sort of inner vibration that seems to resonate in a mysterious way with some greater cosmological vibrating thingy. I just seem to be swept along as though I was merely a loose scattering of dust being collected into a small pile. 'Course, it might just be a quantum harpist on an alien planet radiating cosmic vibes or it just might be a clear sign that the biblical flood is true.
Luckily, the sensation only lasts a fraction of a second then I can continue on as normal with the business of reality.
Except, retard, that there are layers that deposit very slowly underneath layers that deposit very quickly. That would be physically impossible to happen over the course of one year of receding flood waters.
A catastophic flood doesn't fit with the Grand Canyon at all . We're lucky enough to have several examples of catastrophic flood landscapes. Some of them might look, very superficially, like the Grand Canyon. But taking a closer look, small and large structures come to light that are indicative of catastrophic flooding. There are tell-tale erosional and depositional structures, and flow structures too. They are not evident in the Grand Canyon.
Ok, let's say there was a "catastrophic" flood as dictated in the Bible. If that were the case, all the water would slowly erode the top layer of sediment, not a thin river to slice through it all like a loaf of bread. If there was a massive flood, there would be no Grand Canyon, just a Grand Plain of Nothing.
Supposing that the flood did cause the Grand Canyon, there would be no layers, since the layers, no matter what their position is, are proof of erosion and several climate changes, etc. If the flood would have caused the Grand Canyon, it wouldn't look like a river, like here:
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It would look like this:
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http://www.beyondbooks.com/ear82/7b.asp
Sedimentary Rocks: Layered Storytellers
Just how long does it take for sedimentary rock such as the Navajo Sandstone Formation in Utah to form? Care to guess?
What?
1) Erosion tends to flatten things out as anything that "sticks out" tends to bear the brunt of whatever force (usually water) is passing through the area.
2) It's not perfectly horizontal and some layers come in on an angle
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3) What kind of magic flood makes distinct layers of rock and orders them in such a way that there is no rhyme or reason to the ordering. Even if floods COULD make organized layers at the very least the rocks would be ordered by buoyancy. And as a quick note, so would fossils.
4) Even if there was a flood that caused the Grand Canyon, it's not necessarily a global flood and even if it's a global flood it's not necessarily the one mentioned in the Bible. But at least now I see why you picked the Grand Canyon as your subject matter, you had to leap over its widest chasm to make your conclusions.
Ignoring the fact that simultaneously laying down the layers in the canyon walls and carving the canyon itself doesn't really make a lot of sense, even if a catastrophic flood laid down sediment, it would compose *one* layer as the flood is described as a single event.
What a dolt.
Oh, no wait... clearly says made by Jehova on this rock here...
MADE YOU LOOK AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
Idiot.
Are you REALLY that goddamn stupid?
Stuff does not erode so long as more stuff is being deposited on top of it, dolt.
The Creationists "Scientific" Method
1.I see x
If the flood created the Grand Canyon, how come it didn't created canyons of these kinds all over the wolrd?
Could it be...gasp... because the flood is just bullshit?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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