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Coupled with all the biblical, geological, and anthropological evidence for noah's flood, one is justified in regarding the Genesis account of the animals dispersing from a central point as perfectly reasonable. Not only that, but the biblical model provides an excellent framework for the scientific study of these questions.

Ken Ham, Jonathan Sarfati, and Carl Wieland, Christiananswers.net 50 Comments [7/16/2011 3:10:05 AM]
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#1310227
TB Tabby

Wrong, wrong, and ever so wrong.

7/16/2011 3:13:38 AM
#1310229
Anon2

Coupled with all the biblical [...] evidence for noah's flood, one is justified in regarding the Genesis account of the animals dispersing from a central point as perfectly reasonable.

Failed right at the start. "The bible says that a bible story is true."

And not to mention that the alleged geological and anthropological "evidence" for the biblical flood is nothing but fabricated lies and wishful thinking.

7/16/2011 3:29:14 AM
#1310231
aaa

Standard creationist bullshit. Nothing scientific about it.

7/16/2011 3:34:27 AM
#1310232
Raised by Horses

Looks like Mr. Ham here never learned that simply saying shit doesn't make it true.

7/16/2011 3:36:21 AM
#1310234
Bollox

NO IT FUCKING DOESN'T!!!!

Ahem. Sorry about that.

7/16/2011 3:45:43 AM
#1310235
Percy Q. Shunn

Er, no.


7/16/2011 3:55:44 AM
#1310236
Matante

Lets not be harsh: sure, the idea behind this paragraph makes no sense, but you see that by putting all their knowledge together, those three men were capable of writing long polysyllabic words into sentences and coming up with something intelligible. That's more than one usually expects from them!

7/16/2011 3:57:37 AM
#1310237
Prager

How can the writers make reference to “geological and anthropological evidence for noah's [sic] flood” when there is none?

7/16/2011 4:06:16 AM
#1310238
Kinderklein

Not to mention the arcs that have been found and how well they would have handled rough weather at sea.

Totally convincing.

7/16/2011 4:13:59 AM
#1310240
D Laurier

There is no geological or antropological evidence for Noah's flood.

There are five highly literate civilizations that continued to have the same respective, and distinctive, cultures through the mythical flood period. Those civilizations continue unbroken... (ie: same language, same culture, same everything)...


7/16/2011 4:57:46 AM
#1310244
TGRwulf

Fail on SO many levels.

7/16/2011 5:03:43 AM
#1310245
John_in_Oz

The Biblical model- talking snakes, talking donkeys, pi = 3, etc, a good basis for scientific study?
Suuuuurrre it is.

7/16/2011 5:12:22 AM
#1310246
Sadhuman

So let's see this evidence, is it stuff that scientists can make a better claim to mean something else...is it that you don't think that something could happen the way scientists say it did so God Did It. Is it the typical bullshit that you lot always call evidence? I would be surprised if it wasn't.

Let's face it your Bible is not 100% true, that's fine you can still believe in your God. If you can't then your belief is so weak that it is no wonder that anything that proves it wrong scares you so much. You can't do without your blankie and it frightens you that others can.

7/16/2011 5:23:08 AM
#1310247
Xotan

There are none so blind as those who will not see!

When are fundamentalists ever going to realise that it was man who wrote the bible, and man who proclaimed it inspired? It's claim to inerrancy is in shreds and this is so obvious that a 10 year old (unbrainwashed) would spot it in a simple reading.

@ John in Oz

Here's a conundrum. Snakes have no ears, that I am aware of. They rely on picing up vibrations on their underside. No ears, means their capacity for speech would be most unlikely. So what was going on that the snake in Eden could talk. Adam and Eve must have been Demons to be able to make a snake talk.

I will yield if someone can produced the evidence as to when God descended and said to witnesses that he had inspired the book and left some concrete token that we can refer to at any time.

7/16/2011 5:27:04 AM
#1310248
Mudak

All right. I'll bite. With all this evidence, why are there no penguins in the arctic or polar bears in the Antarctic?

7/16/2011 5:28:44 AM
#1310253
Doctor Whom

From the top of that page:

Let us begin by reaffirming that God's Word does indeed reveal, in the plainest possible terms, that the whole globe was inundated with a violent, watery cataclysm—Noah's flood.

Let us begin by stating our conclusion.


7/16/2011 6:09:14 AM
#1310254
Tallyho

Explain marsupials! Why did they all go in one direction?

How doe your bible explain that?

7/16/2011 6:11:54 AM
#1310256
Horsefeathers

"Coupled with all the biblical, geological, and anthropological evidence for noah's flood, one is justified in regarding the Genesis account of the animals dispersing from a central point as perfectly reasonable."

Very true. If you had this evidence. Which you don't. In fact, it's not even that you don't have this evidence but that there is direct evidence both against this actually happening and against it even being possible to start with.

"Not only that, but the biblical model provides an excellent framework for the scientific study of these questions."

No. It doesn't.

Smarter people than you have already tried that and failed horribly. And they were devout Christians who actually went looking for evidence to back up what you're claiming instead of just sitting on their ass, such as you do, writing books and giving lectures while parroting the old, "There's gobs of evidence for this!" line.

7/16/2011 6:37:20 AM
#1310262


Bible stories are unverifiable therefore they are not evidence.

There is no geological evidence that is best explained by a global flood model.

There is no anthropological evidence that suggests that a global flood took place. If anything, it shows that flood myths are common, that relatively primitive peoples were wont to ascribe supernatural causes to such floods and that their narrow experience meant that the geographic area immediately surrounding them were as the whole world.

Geological and anthropological evidence does not support the Biblical creation myth, any more than it supports the creation myths of any other religious or cultural group.

If you want to believe that fine, but leave the science out of it. Have the balls to just admit you accept it on faith, and nothing will shake that.

7/16/2011 7:08:04 AM
#1310263
John

one is justified in regarding the Genesis account of the animals dispersing from a central point as perfectly reasonable

Oh, perfectly! [/sarcasm]

Fundie Beliefs #26 - Where the Animals Went

Eventually, the water went somewhere*. Then the animals went back to their own places: the two llamas swam 2,500 miles across the Atlantic to South America, hacked their way across the Amazon jungles and climbed up into the newly-formed Andes, where either God or "micro-evolution" gave them a new form of hemoglobin to cope with the lack of air. The Gila monsters swam the Atlantic and settled in the US deserts, the penguins went to Antarctica and the polar bears headed to the frozen North. The two Australian giant earthworms tunneled under the Kavir desert, slithered across India, island-hopped down the Malay Peninsula and burrowed under the ocean bed to emerge in Australia. Noah’s wife went back to the kitchen where she belonged. Noah’s boat settled in Turkey, where it can still be seen by anyone with an imagination.

* According to Internet fundie AV1611VET, it went to Neptune.

7/16/2011 7:08:54 AM
#1310267
John Marley

Biblical evidence - Fiction
Geological evidence - Contradictory
Anthropological evidence - Doesn't exist

I really think that creationists don't understand what 'evidence' actually is.

7/16/2011 7:28:14 AM
#1310270
Berny

What geological and anthropological evidence would that be? None that I've ever seen or am familiar with. In fact, all the evidence I've seen suggests the flood is a complete myth fabricated by primitive men.
All you've got is a Bible fairy tale and no more, gentlemen. If you have geologists and anthropologists stating they have evidence for a Biblical flood, I demand to see their qualifications, as I suspect they have none from recognized, accredited universities.

7/16/2011 7:39:33 AM
#1310274
Pule Thamex

The only part of Christian Answers which is not a complete mass of lies and deceptions is its title.

7/16/2011 7:58:42 AM
#1310275


If the kangaroos went from the Middle East to Australia, shouldn’t there be evidence of kangaroos in between the Middle East and Australia?

And what made them home in onto Australia to begin with? And how’d they get across the Indian Ocean?

7/16/2011 8:11:53 AM
#1310277


Here's a question: Why is there no fossil evidence of radial dispersion from a central point?

7/16/2011 8:27:15 AM
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