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This is new...and SICK!

Recently I did business with MetLife.

As with many large businesses, I had to send them a W-9 and to fill out a vendor questionnaire. The questionnaire contained typical questions like: "Type of commodity/Services the vendor is providing. "Whether MetLife employee/ Ex MetLife employee, etc."

Then at the bottom, the questionnaire says "Whether Minority Owned / Women Owned / Disabled Veterans / LGB-LGBT Owned." Yes, LGB, LGBT, which I'm pretty sure is referring to LESBIAN, GAY, BI, TRANSEXUAL"

I've always been annoyed about having special rights going to the Minority and Women Owned businesses, but from my understanding, these are "disadvantaged businesses" that need extra assistance.

I have a couple of questions I really need answered:

1. I have never heard of any government law(s) federal state making this any criteria for doing business (unlike the minority thing). Does anyone know if there is any laws on the books, or is this something MetLife is doing on their own? If so, I intend to boycott them forever more (although I'll take their money for this or any other sales)

2. It's no secret that the gay community is much more economically prosperous than the average American, so what is the reasoning for giving special advantages to LGBT?

3. When I mentioned we were a small business, we got a response asking to show proof of this. How does one prove themselves to be Gay or Bi?

4. Would one have to physically participate in sexual acts of members of the same sex qualify for these special rights, or would staring at a dude in spandex for ten seconds be enough for their terms?

All I know, is that many times I've been in a rest stop along the highway, I've found writing on the walls that says "be here at 12:30 am at such and such date for (sick sexual act). When I was younger, I thought it was just some pervert joking around. Now I'm pretty sure those bathroom proposals are indeed sincere. It just amazes me these bathroom writers should get any special treatment.

Your thoughts?

64 comments

old comment by Doubting Thomas

is this something MetLife is doing on their own? If so, I intend to boycott them forever more

How dare they be all-inclusive?

(although I'll take their money for this or any other sales)

Of course. Their gay money isn't tainted enough for you to keep your hands off it.

All I know, is that many times I've been in a rest stop along the highway, I've found writing on the walls that says "be here at 12:30 am at such and such date for (sick sexual act). When I was younger, I thought it was just some pervert joking around. Now I'm pretty sure those bathroom proposals are indeed sincere. It just amazes me these bathroom writers should get any special treatment.

Do you know why gay men have to meet for sex in public restrooms? It's because most straight people like you have demonized them and tried to keep them marginalized so that they have to arrange secret meetings for sex instead of being able to live in an open, monogamous gay relationship. So they have sex in public restrooms instead of in private bedrooms. And I'm willing to bet that a lot, if not most, of these men are in heterosexual marriages.

old comment by Raised by Horses

'Then at the bottom, the questionnaire says "Whether Minority Owned / Women Owned / Disabled Veterans / LGB-LGBT Owned." Yes, LGB, LGBT, which I'm pretty sure is referring to LESBIAN, GAY, BI, TRANSEXUAL"'

No? Really? Perhaps you can regale us with your thoughts on what ASAP and CIA stand for, while you're at it.

"If so, I intend to boycott them forever more (although I'll take their money for this or any other sales)"

What part of 'boycott' do you not understand? There's no such thing as 'semi-boycott'. It's an all-in statement or nothing. (Not that MetLife would really feel the loss of your patronage.)

"It's no secret that the gay community is much more economically prosperous than the average American"

I don't like to use the phrase much, but goddamn citation goddamn needed, goddamnit.

"When I mentioned we were a small business, we got a response asking to show proof of this. How does one prove themselves to be Gay or Bi? Would one have to physically participate in sexual acts of members of the same sex qualify for these special rights, or would staring at a dude in spandex for ten seconds be enough for their terms?"

I'm pretty sure they can tell by your photo that you're an inbred hick, and will refrain from handing you any more questionnaires containing questions too hard for you to understand.

"Your thoughts?"

You're an idiot. Being that's the case, you're definitely right for FreeperLand. Shine on, you moronic, bigoted diamond.

old comment by J. James

yes, DAMN THOSE GAYS FOR BEING GIVEN CIVIL RIGHTS!!!

I think you're one of those people that still believes in segregation, just in a different form. But at the end of the day, you still sound just like:
"This is new...and SICK!

Recently I did business with MetLife.

As with many large businesses, I had to fill out a vendor questionnaire. The questionnaire contained typical questions like: "Type of commodity/Services the vendor is providing. "Whether MetLife employee/ Ex MetLife employee, etc."

Then at the bottom, the questionnaire says "Whether Women Owned / of African descent Owned." Yes, 'Of African descent' which I'm pretty sure is referring to NIGGERS.

I've always been annoyed about having special rights going to the Minority and Women Owned businesses, but from my understanding, these are "disadvantaged businesses" that need extra assistance.

I have a couple of questions I really need answered:

1. I have never heard of any government law(s) federal state making this any criteria for doing business. Last time I checked Niggers were 3/5 of an Aryan. Does anyone know if there is any laws on the books, or is this something MetLife is doing on their own? If so, I intend to boycott them forever more.

2. It's no secret that the nigger community is much less economically prosperous than the average American, so what is the reasoning for giving special advantages to them?

3. If you were a partner to a nigger businessman, would one have to physically participate in miscegenation to qualify for these special rights, or would staring at a negro female in spandex without vomiting for ten seconds be enough for their terms?

Your thoughts?"

old comment by Passerby

I'd ask what the hell that question was even doing there, but then I start to think like an insurance provider.

A business owned by a member of a visible minority or the LGBT community is far more likely to be targeted for vandalism, theft, and idiot mobs with eye-offending signs who feel perfectly justified making life difficult for the owner. As such, the monthly rate will most likely get jacked up through the stratosphere. A veteran may also be the target of war protesters, but hopefully not the rowdy kind. Punks and thugs might pick a fight with a soldier because they think it makes them look hard. Rates go up as a result.

If anyone refuses to check the boxes because they know they'll get screwed that's an automatic forfeiture if they ever need to cash in on their policy.

There are no 'special rights' for anyone and I find it amusing you'd make that claim without the slightest idea of what happens if those boxes get checked. The 'special rights' people like you keep going on about never amounts to anything more than the right to go about their day without being harassed.

old comment by shykid

Where does that form even so much as imply checking those boxes gets you special discounts? They're most likely to collect demographics and statistics. I agree with you that giving LGBT people special discounts is wrongand I'm ridiculously queerbut there's no reason to automatically assume that's what those checkboxes are for. In fact, there are a couple of reasons to assume that's not the case:

First of all, it's too expensive and laborious to go back and double check if every single person is telling the truth on those forms. Even if it weren't, nobody can really tell if you're gay or not unless they sleep with you, and even then it's not that hard to fake attraction and pleasure. That means if those checkboxes were for discounts, suddenly half of their clients would be identifying themselves as disabled black male-to-female lesbian Muslim veterans.

Secondly, anti-discrimination laws that include sexual orientation and gender identity protect straight and cisgendered people from discrimination too, contrary to popular belief. I'm pretty sure giving special discounts to LGBT people qualifies as discrimination against straight and cisgendered people. If you're afraid of being discriminated against because you're a straight and cisgendered, then supporting said anti-discrimination laws is in your best interest. ;)

old comment by derpmaster

They get special treatment. Every response to a government Request For Proposal (RFP) provides special bonuses if you include work for minority and small businesses.

You're not required to do so if you think you can win without the special bonuses, but most large companies try and get small and minority businesses on their team.

If a black, wounded, female war veteran ever starts a small business, that company might well be invited to join just about every team submitting a proposal to the government.

Like a lot of other government initiatives, it's a good idea that may have gotten out of hand.

Not trying to be a dick here but I'm not getting where it's implied that this guy is attempting to bid for a government contract. It sounds more like he's trying to nail down a contract with MetLife and he wasn't happy with something on their vendor questionnaire. For all we know he's bidding to sell them toilet paper or mechanical pencils.

old comment by Alencon

@derpmaster

While MetLife may not be directly bidding on a government contract, having diversified suppliers may provide them an advantage when and if they do.

I see the declaration on MetLife's page but I know the government policy and while it's possible MetLife is taking this position because they feel it's the right thing to do, I suspect it's because it gives them a potential advantage when they partipate in government business.

And I believe they do provide government plans including dental and retirement plans. Having disadvantaged suppliers may be a factor in maintaining that business. I don't know for certain but it may.

The disclaimer is simply a safety valve. It allows them to gather diversified supplier information without having to make any committments.

Many states have similar programs. See http://osdbu.dot.gov/about/mission.cfm as an example of a Federal program.

None of this is necessarily a bad thing except I know from experience that it can get out of hand sometimes.

old comment by Scelerata

"2. It's no secret that the gay community is much more economically prosperous than the average American[...]"

Really? Someone must have forgot to send me my 'Thanks for being a lesbian!' paycheck. Guess I've been living in subsidized housing for nothing!

Where you got this idea baffles me beyond anything else that has ever baffled me in the history of baffling. Gays and lesbians span every socioeconomic niche. If they seem more affluent to you, that's likely because more of them get a higher education, thereby expanding their possibility for careers, compared to you and your ilk who tend to hold the same destructive views towards education as you do towards homosexuality.

old comment by urban wombat

I know way more poor gay people than wealthy ones. In fact my good friend and his partner are both struggling right now since they both got laid off from their nice office jobs and now are working shit jobs at Wal-Mart and Dairy Queen respectively to make ends meet.

I have a Jewish friend who always jokes with "I wish Jews had all the money and power that all these fucktards keep claiming we do. It'd be pretty awesome to be able to kill all the goyims!" His family is dirt fucking poor. Like they were on welfare poor. Like they got food from the foodbank that came in a white wrapper with a few words in generic government font stating what it was. That kind of poor.