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Mathematics is also great proof of God. How is it possible that:

98
x72

can be figured out by carrying a digit over the top? What if that didn't work? How would we multiply without calculators?

If carrying over the one on top of the 9 did not work, how would we multiply? Seems awfully convenient to me that it "just happened" like that?

Self-Mutation, Freethought & Rationalism Discussion Board (FRDB) 124 Comments [8/9/2011 9:18:04 AM]
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#1320547
louislois

Does the username "Self-Mutation" describe what happened to your brain functions?

8/10/2011 5:57:44 AM

#1320557
Jack

fuckin' magnets, how do they work

8/10/2011 6:50:39 AM

#1320558
toth

Pretty clearly satire.

8/10/2011 6:50:47 AM

#1320565
Joe Mama

The sad part is, if we let fundies control the schools, this is what math class would sound like.

8/10/2011 7:17:05 AM

#1320592
Anon-e-moose

Ancient Greek mathematicians. Y'know, ancient. As in pre-Biblical. They were able to determine that the Earth was spherical, when the Bible claimed as 'fact' that it was flat (the 'Firmament'; a flat 'Earth' supported on 'pillars', and all that jazz). Hell, the ancient Greeks were able to calculate with as near as dammit precision the value of Pi:



When the Bible states that Pi = exactly 3.

The Bible doesn't mention '0' or Zero. It was the ancient Mayans who invented & used 0 in their numerical system.

Thus it could be said that the Mayans laid the foundations for the Binary system, ergo computers today. QED. Algebra was even an Islamic invention.

"Mathematics is also great proof of God"?



Oh no more, please Mr. Wilde, I am bereft of ribs!

8/10/2011 8:47:53 AM

#1320621
Thrutch

98x72=7200-144

and no god involved

8/10/2011 9:16:18 AM

#1320628
Anon

I am speechless on how stupid this guy is.

8/10/2011 9:23:06 AM

#1320644
Frank

"How would we multiply without calculators?"

You can't multiply without a calculator? All that taxpayers money wasted trying to educate you. Might as well have flushed it down the toilet for all the good it's done.

8/10/2011 9:33:56 AM

#1320657
werewolf

Who knows? Maybe it was intelligently designed.

8/10/2011 9:46:13 AM

#1320668
Brendan Rizzo

Oh my God. This reminds me of what Leonhard Euler said to Denis Diderot, though Euler, unlike Self-Mutation here, was a genius who for some reason felt like trolling a fellow intellectual. (Probably because he was in backwards Russia at the time.)

But what Self-Mutation has just said has placed him straight in the upper echelons of stupid, together with Supersport, Cassiterides, OrangeWizard, and Garvan Ellison. The problem 98*72 is solved by carrying a digit because that is the convention that humans have come up with for multiplication. The carried digits refer to tens or hundreds, so Self here doesn't even comprehend place value. I'd like to see him multiply XCVIII and LXXII.

Wait a second, he doesn't know how to multiply two-digit numbers without calculators?! What has technology done?!?! Clearly he is an elementary-school dropout or something, or he was homeschooled by fundies who didn't bother to teach math. Ayayayayaye...

For the record, here's how it's done, Self-Mutation:

##5
##1
##98
#x72
____
#196
686
____
7056

See, that's not so hard, is it?

EDIT: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK! My formatting is ruined. Now I have to add placeholders in front of everything.

8/10/2011 10:07:19 AM

#1320707
Jamaican Castle

@Fawful

Quoth Douglas Adams: "I may be sad, but I don't write jokes in base 13."

@Raised By Horses

Except for the dice that always roll between 1 and 12, or 1 and 20. Obviously this is proof of polytheism. (For the record, Zeus is the god of d4s.)

8/10/2011 10:39:04 AM

#1320713
N. De Plume

@Jamaican Castle:

Indeed. Polyhedral. Polytheism. See the connection?

That’s why Dungeons & Dragons is Satanic. Stick with the Holy 6-sided dice! Play GURPS!

8/10/2011 10:44:44 AM

#1320804


I rarely comment on something this dumb, but please be a Poe. Please. Let alone that...what is this I don't even...

When would you carry a one? That's not multiplication. That's not...

I give up.

Sidhe

8/10/2011 1:54:57 PM

#1320872
Olympus Mons

Numbers go in
Answer comes out
Can't explain it...

(Really, its not that hard to understand, mathematics is just patterns, not some unexplainable magic.)

8/10/2011 7:29:14 PM

#1320873
Raised by Horses

@Jamaican Castle

I play it safe by using a gömböc-shaped die. Never lets me down.

8/10/2011 7:30:32 PM

#1320904
Zimmer

That thread is a fucking GOLDMINE.

And he tops himself EVERY PAGE.



Posted by Self-Mutation:


But remember, as the atheists have often said on here, "There is no evidence for God," am I right? The atheists do believe this, right?

Now, when I claim, "But there is no evidence that you don't believe in God. How do you prove to me, Self-Mutation, that YOU are an atheist?"

Since there is no evidence anyone is an atheist, am I justified in saying, "Nobody is an atheist?" If not, why not?

This is just to illustrate that atheists commit logical fallacies too. Logical fallacies are not reserved for religious people like the atheists always say. Atheists commit them too.

If you are true to your position of "No evidence for God" then you must also stay true to your position of "no evidence anyone is an atheist."

I have brought this up before and I did receive backpedaling from the atheists. But how many times have the atheists claimed that we theists backpedal a lot?

The tables CAN be turned.

8/10/2011 10:41:53 PM

#1320938
Paler_Face

I smell a poe.

8/11/2011 2:30:04 AM

#1320955
Ruf

98x72 = (90x70)+(8x70)+(90x2)+(8x2)

Or seeing as it's close...

98x72 = (100x72)-72-72 = 7200-72-72

8/11/2011 3:39:04 AM

#1321000
The_L

As a math teacher, I wept upon reading this.

There are many ways to multiply 98 * 72.

There's (98 * 70) + (98 * 2), the standard algorithm that Self-Mutation appears to be referencing.

There's 98 * 9 * 8, obtained by dividing 72 into one-digit factors.

There's multiplication a la russe, in which you halve, double, and add as follows:

72 * 98 = 36 * 196 = 18 * 392 = 9 * 794 = 4 * (1598 + 794) = 4 * 2392 = 2 * 4794 = 1 * 9598 = 9598.

All of these methods are mathematically correct, and all of them give you 9598. The only difference is the amount of time taken to solve the problem.


By the way, numbers and mathematics are artificial constructs created by human beings. Animals have no use for numbers.

@Anon-e-moose: To be fair, 3 is a reasonable approximation of pi for daily use. Even 3.14 is more accurate than you really need for construction work. Also, bear in mind that cubits were an approximate measure of length, not a standardized one: "ten cubits" and "thirty cubits" are not the same length for two different people.

8/11/2011 6:57:25 AM

#1321006
Brendan Rizzo

@ The L:

9598?! Where on Earth did you get that number? Everyone else who solved the problem got 7056, and I double-checked that on a calculator, and also got 7056. So where did your number come from?

8/11/2011 7:09:19 AM

#1321078
GodotIsWaiting4U

I wonder what this asshole would think if he saw the same equation done in another number system.

8/11/2011 10:07:43 AM

#1321198
vaiyt



8/11/2011 3:08:27 PM

#1321235
Saladin


8/11/2011 6:03:56 PM

#1321482
Sephirose

So much fail...SO much fail.

8/12/2011 11:13:04 AM

#1321629
The Stupid, It Burns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rE3stoPyBg

8/13/2011 2:10:00 AM
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