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In 1990, God gave me a vision. He showed me a vision of young people all over the world and how that they were being led astray by music. In more detail he showed me that the white youth of America were being lead astray by the Heavy Metal and Hard-core Metal music fad....

In the same vision, God showed me that Heavy Metal music was not reaching the black youth of America and that the enemy had a greater plan in store for us. He showed me that the enemy was creating a new type of music that would reach far beyond the color barriers that Heavy Metal could.... The music he showed me that would surface is what we now call Hip Hop.

The Messenger, Ex Ministries 97 Comments [8/14/2011 6:44:06 AM]
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Yeah, it's easy to make up prophecies in retrospect.

8/14/2011 6:48:59 AM


So, does being amusical make me a saint?

8/14/2011 6:55:35 AM


Epic Fail.

Heavy Metal, Hardcore and Rap/Hip Hop are all (much) older than 1990. Some of these were popular long before then. Your god is behind the curve- excuse me, not 'with it'.

8/14/2011 7:01:45 AM

Street Sharks

Rarely do I agree with fundies. But I am pretty sure that something as awful as hip hop could only have been created by the devil.

8/14/2011 7:04:10 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

LOL! Your god is, like, a total square, man!

8/14/2011 7:04:54 AM


So, God is racist? That's what I'm reading.

8/14/2011 7:05:00 AM

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

Since both heavy metal and rap/hip hop were around before 1990 it wouldn't have been much of a prediction even then. It has even less meaning now that you made it up over 20 years after that.
You got it wrong anyway, rock n' roll is the devils music corrupting the minds of the impressionable youth. That evil Elvis gyrating his hips. /snicker

8/14/2011 7:13:05 AM


Dear pastor,

you're fogetting Mr. Clean, Mr. Christian, Mr. Right Wing America, Mr. Double Standard, the love object of all white conservative mid-wetsren mommies: Pat Boone!

Remember him?

Oops, well he was young and needed the money.

But then the Devil, yes Satan himself caught up with dear old Pat:

Strange how he first went Christian when his career was slumping and when the Chrissie thing started wearing off, the devil made him go "punk".

It's not Hip Hop you should be scared of, it's PAT BOONE!!!

8/14/2011 7:15:00 AM

Lol visions of the recent past XD

8/14/2011 7:20:50 AM

Man Called True

@checkmate: It's worth noting that after Pat Boone released that album, his church temporarily expelled him.

8/14/2011 7:21:28 AM

Lots of hip hop artists profess a belief in Christianity and you can listen to metal and still be Christian, so music isn't the problem.

8/14/2011 7:28:08 AM

Chest Rockwell

xtian metal! LMFAO!

8/14/2011 7:43:28 AM

Zeus Almighty

@ Chest Rockwell

That photo reminds me of these guys from the Bob Odenkirk and David Cross show on HBO.


8/14/2011 7:50:21 AM


God achieved all this simply by playing this guy Vanilla Ice.
Actually, 1990 does seem a bit late. Why not 1986, when Run DMC and Aerosmith did a song together?

8/14/2011 7:51:39 AM


Sounds like God, alright ... people starving to death in Africa, people dying of cancer or being wiped out by earthquakes, and He's worrying about what music we listen to. Just like Jesus: people starving and dying and he's wasting his powers changing water into wine and killing fig trees.

8/14/2011 7:55:43 AM


By all means bring back backward masking too. I love it when they play heavy metal backwards and it sounds like an old movie from elementary school.

8/14/2011 7:56:00 AM

Comrade Potatovich

No, Tipper. You aren't "The Messenger". Shut up, you failed once already.

8/14/2011 7:56:42 AM


As someone who's been a metalhead for almost 14 years, I always laugh when people say hip-hop is the evil genre.

8/14/2011 8:04:12 AM


The PMRC was just as far behind as you were. And god too apparently. Judas Priest and Slayer and Ozzy were doing stuff in the 80s and 70s.

8/14/2011 8:20:21 AM

That wasn't a vision you ass, it was MTV.

8/14/2011 8:35:59 AM


Over the years, the Christian Church in one form or another has condemned all the theatre arts, Ballet, the Minuet, Square Dancing, malt shops, coffee houses, every form of R&B (Rock), card playing, video games, and just about anything you can think of that competes with the collection plate for disposable income and the church for entertainment.

You really need God at this point to tell you how to rant? It's a formula!

8/14/2011 8:36:49 AM


LMAO at the idea that hip-hop and metal are similar genres of music.

Also, pretty sure that rap and hip-hop existed in 1990.

8/14/2011 8:46:22 AM


Heavy metal and hip hop forced me to rape and pillage and believe evolution.

8/14/2011 8:48:22 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Oh, that last line cracks me up. You'd think that they'd prefer hip-hop to something like gangster rap, but these are fundies we're talking about. They still think that dancing is of the devil, most likely. (Isn't this person about thirty years too late to be complaining about hip hop? Even the fundies who go apoplectic at Harry Potter are more recent.)

I find it funny that The Messenger thinks that heavy metal is an exclusively-white phenomenon. One of my good friends is a self-proclaimed metalhead, and he isn't white. (He isn't black either, but still, he's not white.) Ignoring the stupidity of the idea of the devil decided to segregate his evil plans by race, much of heavy metal's sinister reputation is really undeserved. The songs kick ass, for the most part. But I digress...

8/14/2011 8:53:38 AM

Tolpuddle Martyr

Shounds like dat gosh-barmed "rock music" dem young folks are listenin' to these days, get off my lawn!

8/14/2011 8:53:55 AM

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