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Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has suggested gay marriage is to blame for America's economic woes.

In a radio interview on Catholic Radio San Diego to pitch his book A Nation Like No Other, his short film Nine Days that Changed the World, and his wife Callista Gingrich's upcoming children's book Sweet Land of Liberty, host Charles Limandri asked Gingrich why he believed “radical secularists” are attacking the family.

“The concept of family being between man and woman and the concept of all these core values that grow out of 3,000 years of Judeo-Christian tradition,” Gingrich answered. “This is a direct threat to the entire secular world.”

“We're becoming increasingly secular, the family is under attack and economically we're experiencing woes like we've never known in our history it seems. So what is the connection here?” Limandri asked.

“You have to recognize that free enterprise is based on free people and … free people are based on faith,” Gingrich replied. “The very basis of our belief and freedom is that we believe we are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights. The very source of our strength is that we believe these are truths – not theories, not ideologies, not gimmicks, not political consultants, powerpoints – truths, and so there's a core absolute overlap between free enterprise, freedom and freedom of faith. And if you don't have freedom of faith in the end you're not going to have free enterprise because there's no moral force that defends and protects you.”

Newt Gingrich, On Top Magazine 75 Comments [8/20/2011 5:22:40 AM]
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rawful

evidence please

8/20/2011 8:22:20 AM

TWoozl

You are a complete dick. Do you know what 3,000 years of Judeo-Christian tradition mean for marriage? Slavery is an acceptable component of a marriage; Have a female slave? You can fuck her too! She's your marital property. Concubines? Yup, those are cool by the Bible! Don't you ever dare use polygamy as an argument about gay marriage, your own damn book espouses it! You get murdered? Your wife is obligated to be re-bound to your brother by fiat! Warfare? Kill a man, take his daughter as a bride or concubine!

You really think you have a long tradition of purity? At least homosexual relations are consensual, you pompous fuck. Purity is for drinking water, not people.

8/20/2011 8:51:20 AM

Swede

Sweden is a VERY secular society, but we still have mostly "traditional" families. Very few marry as many as three times. Most people only marry once, a few marry twice and some just live together as long as they both shall live. We certainly don't have a majority of gay marriages, and we heterosexuals (who are secure in our sexuality) don't feel our marriages threatened by more people being able to marry.

We've had registered partnership for about ten years and during most of those years we had economic growth. When people started to move towards the right, we ended up in the quickest and deepest slump since the Great Depression. Mostly thanks to banks "over there" allowed a little too much free enterprise.

Is Gingrich saying that Jew tradition started only 3000 years ago? Huh? I thought it was 6000 years...

What core values? Not to hit our slaves so hard that you kill them or maim them for life? Killing off every man, woman, child and cattle in the country we want to move into? Letting rapists buy their victim from her father? Making burnt offerings to God for anything and everything? Not eating any manner of fat, of ox, sheep or goat? Ostracizing/killing anyone who eats black pudding or prawns?
Actually, I hope those core values are threatened by the secular society...

Free people are based on freedom, gender equality and human rights, not faith. Taliban Afghanistan was brimming with faith, but there were virtually no freedom whatsoever.
There are no unalienable rights, asshole, not really. Which creator, by the way? Our parents?

And once again with the "only religious people have morals". Common decency is a survival instinct, stupid! At least it is for most people; only sociopaths need someone looking over their shoulder in order to stay law-abiding.

8/20/2011 9:00:29 AM

Agahnim

What a dumbass.

8/20/2011 9:06:10 AM

Noneofyourbusiness

What in the name of fuck does homosexual marriage have to do with freedom of faith?

8/20/2011 9:33:24 AM

Jeff Weskamp

There is no... coherency at all to his ramblings, not a single shred of logic or basis in either reality or mythology; it's as if he took a bunch of buzzwords, threw them into the air and decided to speak them in the order in which they landed. -- Extraintrovert

That's a prefectly accurate description of the rhetorical style Newt has used throughout his political career.

8/20/2011 10:38:55 AM

Lucilius

@Xotan et al.: I've held a long one-on-one conversation with Newtie, and I can tell you from personal experience that he's just as much of a hypocritical lying shitbag in real life. He's not stupid, but he knows people like us wouldn't back him anyway. He says this shit because evil slobbering morons are his target audience.

8/20/2011 11:02:37 AM

nazani14

No, no, no!
Global warming has a direct correlation to the decrease in the number of pirates!

8/20/2011 11:07:52 AM

Anon-e-moose

Wow. And there's me thinking that the reason why your country is financially fucked was because of the policies (or lack of such) of one George Dumbya Bush: a married heterosexual man.

But then, you have room to talk, you multiple divorcee, you. So, no hypocrisy on your part, nosiree. [/hyper-sarcasm]

Trust me, Salamander* m'boy, the UK was very secular way before homosexuality was legalised in 1967. And even today, with Civil Partnerships being commonplace, the fact such exists has affected me & my lifestyle exactly this much:

Zero.

Least of all my country financially.

"You have to recognize that free enterprise is based on free people and … free people are based on faith,” Gingrich replied. “The very basis of our belief and freedom is that we believe we are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights. The very source of our strength is that we believe these are truths – not theories, not ideologies, not gimmicks, not political consultants, powerpoints – truths, and so there's a core absolute overlap between free enterprise, freedom and freedom of faith. And if you don't have freedom of faith in the end you're not going to have free enterprise because there's no moral force that defends and protects you."



Oh no more, please Mr. Wilde, I am bereft of ribs! We in the UK have a state religion: the Church of England. We don't actually have a US-style Constitution (beyond Magna Carta, and our abiding by the EU Convention on Human Rights). Our laws laid down by our Parliament are all he morals we need, thank you very much, Mr. Salamander*. Americentric, much?

"there's no moral force that defends and protects you."

Tell that to those who lost their homes & jobs 2-3 years ago, pal. All as a result of your God Emperor of Fucking Up, the 'moral' and 'Christian' George Dumbya Bush.

Your 'Lord' has provided for them hasn't he? Oh yes, that's right. It's actually the Welfare system that has - under the watch of the very secular President Barack Obama.

*- Why do I have in mind the image of his visage in place of the Moai in Konami's series of "Nemesis"/"Gradius" shmup videogames?! [/MAME]

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@Old Viking

Did you get better? X3

8/20/2011 11:16:08 AM



Unfortunately for you, Newt, most of the rest of the world thinks that a man who's cheated on and then thrown away two wives because they were seriously ill is a much bigger threat to "the family" than gay people who want to make lifelong committments to each other.

8/20/2011 11:18:40 AM



The scary thing is that Newt Gingrich is considered a 'centrist' in the American political spectrum.

8/20/2011 12:10:23 PM

Meishayuri

Ah, yes. Word salad.

Add hate, morals, judgements, lemon juice (for cuts, since good Christians love pain), ridiculous rules that make no sense, talking snakes, burning bushes, an omnipotent god hellbent on destroying his own worshipers, opium-induced visions, a golden calf, magic rods, Lucifer, Legion (a special group of demons), weird rituals involving animals, murder, rape, magical horns, parables, really old men, very weak women, and confusing accounts of the same man's life.

Shake or gently toss using tongs.

Feed to the ignorant masses or simply throw it at them as they walk by so all can know the word salad of god.

8/20/2011 12:19:14 PM

Old Viking

She turned me into a newt.

8/20/2011 12:40:49 PM

aaa

This man has genuine political power. I think i should let that sink in for a moment.

8/20/2011 12:50:12 PM

Wehpudicabok


8/20/2011 12:53:13 PM

Skatepunk

^ LOL poor Farnsworth.

As for you, Mr. Gingrich, you just lost a potential vote. Your only redeeming points are that you aren't as volatile as Bachmann (though nowadays she just does SEVERE question dodging).

The election will be between a guy I dislike, and a guy I dislike more. And the GOP's potential choices don't look good.

8/20/2011 1:53:03 PM



economically we're experiencing woes like we've never known in our history it seems

The Great Depression says hi, then it roundhouse kicks you in the face for being a moron.

8/20/2011 2:01:03 PM

Papabear

So, men who ditch their wives in order to marry younger women are not as much of a danger to the family as two lesbians who have been faithful to each other for decades?

8/20/2011 2:12:12 PM

Doubting Thomas

[b]...these core values that grow out of 3,000 years of Judeo-Christian tradition...
...free people are based on faith...[b]

There's nothing more annoying than fundies claiming that everything good comes from their religion, especially when there's no facts to back up these claims.

8/20/2011 2:43:02 PM

Headache

No,just no...

Dumbass Americans who think regulations and government is the work of satan is to0 blame!

Right wing morons are to blame. Ron Paul fap'ers are to blame.

8/20/2011 2:48:38 PM

TWoozl

Headache, why don't you kindly fuck off back to irrelevance, you vapid, bigoted cunt. I'm not even American and your shit's as tiresome as it is specious.

8/20/2011 3:59:18 PM

Murdin

All in all, I reckon there are very few things in our Western societies that can actually and honestly be called Orwellian. The American religious Right's reappropriation of the concept of freedom of faith to mean the same as religious oppression is one of those.

8/20/2011 4:22:46 PM

Percy Q. Shunn

lol @ Newt


8/20/2011 4:24:28 PM

nickiknack

So gays are the new scapegoat when it comes the economy now...first it was Obama..now its the gays...good god the republican party is pathetic...just when you thought they can't sink any lower they pull out this bs

8/20/2011 4:42:12 PM

Zeus Almighty

Family values are to the Newt as bicycles are to amoeba.

8/20/2011 6:16:30 PM
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