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Is heliocentricity an anti-Christian hoax and the "official" adoption of the Copernican model a slap in the face of established religion?
Astrology has for ages used the geocentric model with no problems so I think if there was a problem with it, the practitioners of astrology would have switched a long time ago.
Ptolemy came up with a good model based on what would have been good science of his day and it was used for a long time.
Most astronomers were resistant to the Copernican model when it came out.
Newtonian gravitation does not really work perfectly to describe the motions of the planets.
Galileo and the invention of the telescope are touted by the adherents of the Copernican model as the death nell to geocentrism but all it proved was that the inner planets, Mercury and Venus, orbit the sun, as can be deduced by the phases similar to what the moon experiences. Mercury is a small rock, and the large Venus is gaseous, so no great mass is required to hold them.
The earth has a very dense core and is enough to hold the sun, which is not much more than a hollow plasma field, in orbit.
Jeffrey Grupp is offering a $200 reward to someone who can prove that the earth orbits the sun and not the other way around. So there must be something to this, and people may want to rethink their notions about our world and the people living on it, who are the crowning achievement of God's creation and that we were put into the center of that creation.

jmdewey60, Above Top Secret 85 Comments [8/30/2011 3:39:03 AM]
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JohnTheAtheist

A whole $200?

8/30/2011 6:19:20 AM

Anonymous

This has to be Poe.

@Checkmate: I believe it's "turtles all the way down!"

8/30/2011 6:32:11 AM

Jedi Knight

You have a dense core.

8/30/2011 6:38:58 AM

Comrade Potatovich

Is plumbing an anti-Christian hoax and the "official" adoption of the Roman model a slap in the face of established religion?

8/30/2011 6:40:46 AM

Anon-e-moose

"Is heliocentricity an anti-Christian hoax and the "official" adoption of the Copernican model a slap in the face of established religion?"

Astronomers. NASA & their solar probes. Every Astronaut, Cosmonaut & Taikonaut.



Consider yourself well and truly bitchslapped in perpetuity, established religion & it's fundie adherents like you, jmderpy60.

8/30/2011 6:46:39 AM

Horsefeathers

People like you are the reason aliens haven't contacted us yet.

8/30/2011 6:58:20 AM

Osiris

Is heliocentricity an anti-Christian hoax and the "official" adoption of the Copernican model a slap in the face of established religion?
No. It's an observable fact and one the Church has long reconciled with.

Astrology has for ages used the geocentric model with no problems so I think if there was a problem with it, the practitioners of astrology would have switched a long time ago.
No, it had a ton of problems, for instance it couldn't explain the motions of Mercury and Venus. They switched to the new model because its more accurate.

8/30/2011 7:44:22 AM

Xotan

Let's be patient with this bibliolator. he is only trying to prove why the solar system did not fall apart When Joshua stopped the earth so he could win a battle. It's pitiful, I know. But there is no point in batting this type of credulous fool over the head. There's nothing inside to jolt.

8/30/2011 7:49:55 AM

rubber chicken

Please explain the retrograde motions of the planets using the geocentric model.

8/30/2011 8:33:49 AM

Mister Spak

@ rubber chicken:

Epicycles and eccentrics.

8/30/2011 8:37:46 AM

ChakatBlackstar

Several posts on this site have made me laugh, groan, sigh, shake my head...but this one might actually make me cry.

8/30/2011 8:57:16 AM

Noneofyourbusiness

@Jezebel's Evil Sister

Win!

8/30/2011 9:02:29 AM



There are lies, damn lies and the verbose contortions of the anti-science brigade.

Protip: don't make wild claims that are easily refuted by a simple Google search. Venus is not gaseous, and images of its very rocky surface are readily available.

8/30/2011 9:17:02 AM



Astrology has for ages used the geocentric model with no problems so I think if there was a problem with it, the practitioners of astrology would have switched a long time ago.

The problem with that statement is that astrology is and always has been bullshit.

The earth has a very dense core and is enough to hold the sun, which is not much more than a hollow plasma field, in orbit.

That right there demonstrates how deep your ignorance is and how big a moron you are.

8/30/2011 9:31:12 AM

lisamariefan

Seriously?

8/30/2011 9:48:09 AM



Next time you use a computer, think twice.

8/30/2011 9:57:48 AM

Pilotess

the "official" adoption of the Copernican model

It was adopted because it's fact!

Why is everything that is the least bid "progressive" labeled anti-christian? Even Islam has more scientific progress (medicine, mathematics) under it's belt!

8/30/2011 10:26:08 AM

aaa

Easiest 200 bucks in the world.

8/30/2011 10:54:59 AM

Meshakhad

I feel obliged to point out that even the other denizens of Above Top Secret think this is a load of bullshit. Seriously, read the thread.

8/30/2011 11:03:33 AM

Skyknight

I wouldn't put too much stock in the works of astrologers, not when they think the system worked fine even LONG before they found it necessary to incorporate Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto into the calculations. (Although given Pluto's new dwarf-planet status, I have to wonder if they're impelled to incorporate Eris and Ceres as well...)

8/30/2011 11:08:55 AM

checkmate

I really don't understand the comments here. It's all like sooo simple.

Just look around you. What do you see? A muthafucka huge big Earth.

Now look up in the sky. What do you see? The sun, which is about as big as a fuckin' basketball. And the planets are tiny. That goddam Venus is hardly the size of a small pea at arm's length. Awe shit, even smaller. And I can like cover the moon with my thumb for God's sake.

So, how can something so small like the sun gravitationally hold the Earth in an orbit? Like duhh. That's sooo teh stupid.

Next thing you're like all gonna tell me the stars are really far away. No, dumbass, they're all within seeing distance; I can see them, can't I? Duh.

8/30/2011 11:43:34 AM

Frank

"The earth has a very dense core"

It's not the only thing with a very dense core if you ask me.

8/30/2011 12:02:54 PM

Zimmer

Jeffrey Grupp is offering a $200 reward to someone who can prove that the earth orbits the sun and not the other way around.


Zimmer is offering a $1000 reward to someone who can prove you're not an idiot.

Any takers?

8/30/2011 1:50:24 PM

Evilution Teacher

Astrology for ages . . .

There's your problem.

8/30/2011 2:37:55 PM

Canama

The entire universe revolves around jmdewey60; he's so dense.

8/30/2011 2:49:05 PM
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