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Is heliocentricity an anti-Christian hoax and the "official" adoption of the Copernican model a slap in the face of established religion?
Astrology has for ages used the geocentric model with no problems so I think if there was a problem with it, the practitioners of astrology would have switched a long time ago.
Ptolemy came up with a good model based on what would have been good science of his day and it was used for a long time.
Most astronomers were resistant to the Copernican model when it came out.
Newtonian gravitation does not really work perfectly to describe the motions of the planets.
Galileo and the invention of the telescope are touted by the adherents of the Copernican model as the death nell to geocentrism but all it proved was that the inner planets, Mercury and Venus, orbit the sun, as can be deduced by the phases similar to what the moon experiences. Mercury is a small rock, and the large Venus is gaseous, so no great mass is required to hold them.
The earth has a very dense core and is enough to hold the sun, which is not much more than a hollow plasma field, in orbit.
Jeffrey Grupp is offering a $200 reward to someone who can prove that the earth orbits the sun and not the other way around. So there must be something to this, and people may want to rethink their notions about our world and the people living on it, who are the crowning achievement of God's creation and that we were put into the center of that creation.

jmdewey60, Above Top Secret 86 Comments [8/30/2011 3:39:03 AM]
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Big One

Bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit 200$ bullshit bullshit.

Fixed.

10/11/2011 5:02:33 AM

Greater Good

As an astronomy student, this physically hurts :(

11/16/2011 10:05:30 AM



When did Venus become a gas planet ?
The Sun is a big hollow plasma light ? cool


11/16/2011 10:40:52 AM

Anon-e-moose

Buzz Aldrin would like a word with you, jmdewey60.

Just after you've picked yourself - and your teeth - off the floor.

But hey, don't take my word for it; just ask the journalist who asked him more or less the same thing, re. our solar system.

It took infinitely more than $200 to prove Jeffrey Grupp wrong. And not just the likes of Aldrin, or any of the other Mercury/Apollo astronauts, Soviet/Russian Cosmonauts & Chinese Taikonauts. Why, for just the bargain price of $20 million, you too can be sent to the International Space Station, and see for yourself!

And why would a mere computer software magnate like South African Mark Shuttleworth (you Ubuntu users out there have him to thank!) get voluntarily involved in a mass conspiracy theory? You tell me.

11/16/2011 12:47:10 PM

Anon

Radar astronomy and spacecraft tracking have measured the relative velocities of everything in the solar system. We're moving around the Sun at about 30 km/s.

Mr. Grupp may send 200 USD worth of pizza to the Arecibo Observatory control room. The operators need lunch.

11/16/2011 3:24:00 PM

blahblahbleh

Jeffrey Grupp is offering a $200 reward to someone who can prove that the earth orbits the sun and not the other way around.

well I'm off to earn a cheap 200 bucks.

4/1/2012 10:55:59 AM

Sentry Gun

//Astrology has for ages used the geocentric model with no problems so I think if there was a problem with it, the practitioners of astrology would have switched a long time ago. //

Either it's a Poe, or we really need to enforce minimum intelligence level requirements to be allowed to stay alive.

2/7/2013 5:56:26 AM

Kuno

@checkmate

BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, and even more BULLSHIT!

Nothing rotates around anything.

Everybody knows that the earth is being carried by a huge turtle who's riding an elephant's back.

The lights (sun, moon, planets) are being pulled across the sky by gods, or MAY EVEN BE THE GODS THEMSELVES.

(We can't be too sure about that last part and have to be very cautious about what we assume.)


Absolutely absurd! Everybody knows that the four elephants are standing on the back of one turtle and not the other way around. That would be just silly!

2/7/2013 7:07:40 AM



Astrology? ASTROLOGY??? Astrology is just as scientific as Goddidit. Are you sure you don't mean Astronomy?

Most people resists new things initially, we're a cautious species. But if we see that the new thing is more efficient or works smoother that then old one, we happily switch.

Ptolemy found problems with the geocentric model, and had to make up ways in which the sun and stars had to move in order for the Earth to be the center.

Earth is a small rock too, a bit larger than Mercury, but much, much much smaller than the sun. We have no chanse whatsoever of holding the sun.

Offering money for that, in this day and age, is as stupid as offering money to anyone who can prove that the northern heimsphere has sommer when the southern hemisphere has winter.

2/7/2013 8:06:20 AM

Anon-e-moose

"Is heliocentricity an anti-Christian hoax and the "official" adoption of the Copernican model a slap in the face of established religion?"

By the Catholic Church, no less? You don't know the half of it; meanwhile, at Westminster Abbey, central place of worship of the Protestant Church of England...:


2/7/2013 8:18:18 AM

Quantum Mechanic

Phail Physics much?

idiot

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