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Fucking morons - abortions how do they work?
These imbeciles seems to be completely void of any contact with reality. Here is what happens in countries where abortion is illegal:
1. If you are rich, you travel to a country where abortion is legal and have it there.
2. If you are poor, you go to a backstreet "abortion-clinic" and have a risky life threatening cloth hanger abortion.
Making abortions illegal will not stop people from having abortions, just skew society even more then what it is today.
I'm happy to be a citizen of a country where abortions have not been an issue since the 1960's and where they are paid for by the UHC system and the number of abortions have been steadily declining over the years - it is a non-issue, except for in dumbass USA!
9/1/2011 9:55:32 AM
Is it just me, or does it seem you're the last British person still bitter over the Revolutionary War in existence?
I don't see you around when someone else's fundies prove to be just as stupid, if not more so.
9/1/2011 10:11:38 AM
Until all you so-called "pro-life" people start campaigning against the death penalty and express genuine disdain and anger over people who shoot abortion-providing medical personnel in cold blood, you have no right to call yourself "pro-life."
And I'm not pro-abortion, I'm just in favor of keeping abortion a legal and safe choice in case a woman needs it instead of bullying, shaming, guilting, and passing judgment on any woman who made the choice to terminate her pregnancy, even if for medical reasons, like you so-called "pro-life" people do.
9/1/2011 10:14:58 AM
First, would you mind showing proof that something you call God exists.
9/1/2011 11:24:09 AM
I don't think you would understand anything that isn't screamed at you by a shock jock.
9/1/2011 11:33:51 AM
When are these fundies ever going to understand that supporting the legalization of something isn't the same as forcing people to do it?
Probably never, because they always want to force people to do or not to do things by law, and they think that everyone else does, too.
9/1/2011 11:41:06 AM
OK, but if you're going to tell me what I am, then I'm going to tell you what you are.
9/1/2011 12:27:54 PM
This has nothing to do with killing. Fetuses cannot be aborted after a certain number of weeks, so when they are aborted the feel no pain as they have not developed the ability to do so yet. They also have not developed a conscience. To simplify it for you, late term abortion is not an issue here, and abortion is not murder.
"Would you mind showing me scripture and making Gods case for abortion."
Why don't you show me the verse in the bible where your god speaks out against it? Actually, it just so happens that I can find a verse in favor of it.
Hosea 13:16 (King James Version(because I know how much you fundies love it)) "Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up."
What do you have to say to that?
9/1/2011 12:36:24 PM
Well, I can't quote chapter and verse, unfortunately, but I do remember that at least once in the OT that after the Israelites captured a city populated by their enemies they killed the resident women by cutting the unborn children right out of their stomachs and God never so much as mentioned it, so based on that I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that he's okay with abortion at least in concept.
Ah, a lot of people beat me to it. Hosea 13:16. Gotta remember that.
9/1/2011 1:02:48 PM
Yes, being pro-choice really does mean that we want to abort every single pregnancy without counseling or consent from anyone, least of all the mother.
9/1/2011 4:46:01 PM
It's been my experience that the so-called "pro-life" crowd only cares until the baby is born. After that he or she often simply becomes another welfare cheat.
I might also point out the old saying that someone's rights end where another's begin. The state has an interest, or a right, associated with the developing child and an interest in protecting the mother. That implies that at some point in the pregnancy the choice is no longer solely in the mother's hands. At some later point the fetus has developed to a point where it is viable without the mother and has rights as well. At that point the mother now has no choice at all.
Therefore your "entire nine months" argument is one big fail.
9/1/2011 5:48:28 PM
Abortion is a Christian commandment. Psalms 137:9: "Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones." (Psalms 137:9, KJV)
Abortion is acceptable until the first month after birth. (Leviticus 27:6; Numbers 3:15-16)
The government (the "judges") is the agency responsible for determining what is and is not acceptable, and whether or not an abortion was elective or coerced ("mischevious"). (Exodus 21:22-23)
Christ, your Lord, has spoken. Your move, mdancin4theLord.
9/1/2011 7:05:19 PM
Actually, I'm one of those pro-choicers who think the woman is completely within her right to terminate a fetus that is still residing within her body, regardless of how many months along it has been.
There goes your devil's advocate stance.
It's scary to think that you might have been pregnant for four months but had absolutely no pregnancy signs, and you got your period every month as well. And when you find out, it's too late to abort. Nightmare fuel.
9/1/2011 7:13:56 PM
Abortion =/= killing
And pro-lifers are pro-forced birth...since we seem to be using derogatory terms.
9/1/2011 7:32:07 PM
Tell me, pro-lifers: when you force a woman to give birth, do you support her or her child afterwards?
Do you care if she dies during childbirth, or her child grows up in an orphanage?
Have you ever adopted one of those children?
Didn't think so. Few pro-lifers are willing to put their money where their mouth is once the kid's born.
9/1/2011 8:53:41 PM
No baby has ever died in an abortion. You might as well be claiming that abortion kills butterflies.
9/1/2011 9:05:02 PM
However, most of you "pro-life" people seem less interested in that idea. Specifically, abortion can be easily kept at a bare minimum with lots of sex education and free, easy access to contraceptives for everyone, but most of you "pro-lifers" are dead-set against that, even though a lack of access to sex education and contraceptives naturally results in more abortions. This also goes to show that most of you don't really care about preventing abortion as much as you care about making sure that women (and, to a lesser extent, men) "pay the price" for "spreading their legs" and being "sluts." For that very reason, most of you loathe the mere idea of consequence-free sex, apparently more than you like the idea of greatly reducing the current number of abortions.
Well said indeed. Bravo!!
9/2/2011 4:57:33 AM
Again, you can be pro-choice and still disapprove of abortion. They are not mutually exclusive. Not really a difficult concept.
9/2/2011 6:24:17 AM
mspewin4theLawd, You dig guns, non-stop warfare, depriving the poor & downtrodden of resources to survive, support sweatshops & Robber Barons, love indiscriminate death penalties, pack prisoners in prisons like sardines, trashing the planet with filth & decimation, support torture, etc.....And you call yourself "Pro-Life".....
9/2/2011 8:39:32 AM
"Until all you so-called "pro-life" people start campaigning against the death penalty and express genuine disdain and anger over people who shoot abortion-providing medical personnel in cold blood, you have no right to call yourself "pro-life."
(*Goes into Doug Piranha mode*):
Oh, the reason why 'Pro-Lifers' don't campaign against the death penalty, is because they're too busy looking after all the unwanted babies in the world, due to their wish - via legislation - that abortion be banned under any & all circumstances (including rape; even of underage girls).
...oh yes, that's right. They're not, and it doesn't exist, respectively. Because of their own hypocrisy, and Roe vs. Wade, respectively.
9/2/2011 9:39:34 AM
Hertzyscowicz made me wonder: do fundies understand the concept of consent?
i'll be the first to tear a new one to someone who terminates a wanted pregnancy, yet drive the same lady to the clinic in the case of an unwanted one.
all or nothing is less radical than fundie doctrine.
9/2/2011 10:25:18 AM
you want abortion LEGAL SO THAT SOME WOMEN HAVE THE CHOICE TO KILL.
No. The 9th and 10th Amendment say everything is legal as long as the government doesn't pass a law against it. Basically, you want the government to pass a law against it.
9/2/2011 4:06:32 PM
This is laughable. You can't be pro-choice and say that you are pro-children.
You can't be pro-children and say you are against birth control or sex education, or against providing health care for children. But oddly enough, the people who are against abortion are also against all of these things. Because they're not pro-children. They're anti-sex. They oppose abortion for the same reason they oppose birth control, sex education and help for poor children: they believe that an unwanted child is a deterrent to having sex for fun, and sex education, birth control, abortion and help for poor people are all ways for people to avoid the "punishment of an unwanted pregnancy" that is due them for the "sin" of engaging in sex for fun.
9/2/2011 5:07:58 PM
Stop using extrapolation, it shows that the point is invalid and that you have to blow it out of proportion to win the argument.
9/2/2011 5:12:23 PM
If a woman owns her body doesn't the baby own it's body? If the baby owns it's body don't criminals on death row own their bodies?
We're killing people either way, be honest.
9/3/2011 4:31:30 AM
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