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Libertas is also called the Freedom Goddess, Lady Freedom, the Goddess of Liberty. You know there’s a statue in New York harbor called the Statue of Liberty. You know where we got it from? French Free Masons. Listen folks that is an idol, a demonic idol, right there in New York harbor. People say, ‘well no it’s patriotic.’ What makes it patriotic? Why is it? It’s a statue of a false goddess, the Queen of Heaven. We don’t get liberty from a false goddess folks, we get our liberty from Jesus Christ and that Statue of Liberty in no way glorifies Jesus Christ. There is no connection whatsoever. So I’m just telling you we practice idolatry in America in ways that we don’t even recognize.

John Benefiel, BigThink 36 Comments [9/6/2011 3:31:39 AM]
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Percy Q. Shunn


9/6/2011 3:49:21 AM

Raised by Horses

"So I’m just telling you we practice idolatry in America in ways that we don’t even recognize."

I'll say. Your deification of Ronald Reagan is bordering on blasphemy.

9/6/2011 4:17:26 AM

Mad_Jester

And Smokey the Bear is really the pagan Finnish bear-god! And Wile E. Coyote is really Wisakechak, the Native trickster-god! Run for your LIIIIIIVES!

9/6/2011 6:22:02 AM

loki

The Roman Empire had the Huns. The US have conservative Christians. They're both very destructive on a global scale.

9/6/2011 6:30:46 AM

aaa

I can't wait to hear your opinion on other statues.

9/6/2011 6:56:01 AM

cdcdrr

Yes, it represents a god that isn't yours. And yes, people wanted it there. And yes, people still like that statue. What are you gonna do about it now, punk?

9/6/2011 7:07:09 AM

perdurabo

I think we found one of Glen Beck's researchers.

9/6/2011 7:09:58 AM

Whitleylad

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.... Oh go on and your stupid!"

9/6/2011 7:13:42 AM

Doubting Thomas

So a statue of what you consider to be a false goddess is against the commandment against graven images, but I'm betting you were probably OK with that statue of the ten commandments that that fundie judge put in the Alabama supreme court building (in the middle of the night, no less).

9/6/2011 7:38:24 AM



Actually it's the sculptor's girlfriend with his mother's stern face, representing both youth and experience at the same time... Though the combination and it's implications can be disturbing in their own right.

Jesus had nothing to do with your liberty. He supported supplication to the ruling body, no matter how tyrannical. Add to that the fact the original pilgrims were fleeing the all-encompassing control of the church before forming churches of their own to dominate every portion of their lives.

9/6/2011 9:21:44 AM

Matilda

It's not an idol & it's not The Queen of Heaven. Get over yourself dumbass.

9/6/2011 9:36:51 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Wow, you're completely insane. So I guess that means that the huge statue of Lincoln in the Lincoln Memorial shows that we worship dead presidents? Idiot...

9/6/2011 10:18:49 AM

J. James

Is this the same person that spoke at Rick Perry's wildly illegal sectarian prayer rally?

The one that said she was "a demonic idol"?

...

...Wait, WHY is Perry even being CONSIDERED for president!?

9/6/2011 4:53:03 PM

jsonitsac

Move to Brazil, you might be happier in Rio.


9/7/2011 4:06:42 AM

Extraintrovert

A classic case of "it's terrible unless I do it", considering how much modern Christianity loves idolatry.

9/7/2011 4:12:53 AM

Noneofyourbusiness

@Mad Jester

Well, there was an issue of "The Dreaming" where he turned himself into Wile E. by mistake.

9/7/2011 9:23:32 AM

Noneofyourbusiness

I thought the Queen of Heaven was the Virgin Mary, not a false goddess. Huh?

9/7/2011 9:25:13 AM



It's the personification of freedom, you know, like the Justice with scales and eye-banded. Don't take it so literarily.

9/7/2011 10:44:29 AM

Meshakhad

So what are you going to do about it? Tear down the statue? Yeah, watch as New York kills you and everyone you've even known.

9/7/2011 6:07:16 PM

Argle Bargle

"I hate graven images, unless they support MY beliefs"

9/8/2011 1:08:52 AM

His4Life

Yeah. It's pretty sick. I've also heard that it's a statue of a man in drag, representing Lucifer. The Freemasons are into homosexuality (they dress in drag in many of their rituals and wear bottomless "aprons" that leave the butt exposed to communicate their homosexual status to others) and paganism (admitted Lucifer-worship; it's in their books), so this would make sense, sadly. :(

9/8/2011 7:06:08 AM

Brendan Rizzo

@ His4Life:

It seems that you've become right-up sarcastic now. Do keep in mind that sarcasm doesn't translate well in text.

9/8/2011 8:14:35 AM

His4Life

Brendan, yes, I'm being sarcastic about the Freemasons because I know what they're really about. I had an uncle who was a Mason and he told me all about the homosexual subtext of their false religion. Their uniforms are small aprons that cover the genitals. They are probably not meant to be homosexual in nature, but the fact that they intentionally leave the Mason's behind exposed is a bit suggestive and strange.

9/8/2011 6:46:08 PM

His4Life

Here is some information on the link between homosexuality and Freemasonry: http://home60515.com/23.html

9/9/2011 6:31:30 AM

J. James

@His4Life

You say it like homosexuality is a BAD thing. It's not. It's just a normal, if poorly understood, condition that affects a consistent portion of the Human population(and some other highly social animals). I imagine that perhaps there could be a gay faction of the Masons, because where else would a homosexual hundreds of years ago turn, other than the Clergy?

And since when does Masonry purport itself as a different religion? That makes about as much sense as saying that a little boy's secret club with a complicated handshake is a new religion.

And I resent that you call it a "false" religion, at that. All religions are EQUALLY false. You're no better than a Hindi, scientologist, or Satanist. They're all bunk.

9/9/2011 8:00:54 AM
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