Libertas is also called the Freedom Goddess, Lady Freedom, the Goddess of Liberty. You know there’s a statue in New York harbor called the Statue of Liberty. You know where we got it from? French Free Masons. Listen folks that is an idol, a demonic idol, right there in New York harbor. People say, ‘well no it’s patriotic.’ What makes it patriotic? Why is it? It’s a statue of a false goddess, the Queen of Heaven. We don’t get liberty from a false goddess folks, we get our liberty from Jesus Christ and that Statue of Liberty in no way glorifies Jesus Christ. There is no connection whatsoever. So I’m just telling you we practice idolatry in America in ways that we don’t even recognize.
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Yes, it represents a god that isn't yours. And yes, people wanted it there. And yes, people still like that statue. What are you gonna do about it now, punk?
So a statue of what you consider to be a false goddess is against the commandment against graven images, but I'm betting you were probably OK with that statue of the ten commandments that that fundie judge put in the Alabama supreme court building (in the middle of the night, no less).
Actually it's the sculptor's girlfriend with his mother's stern face, representing both youth and experience at the same time... Though the combination and it's implications can be disturbing in their own right.
Jesus had nothing to do with your liberty. He supported supplication to the ruling body, no matter how tyrannical. Add to that the fact the original pilgrims were fleeing the all-encompassing control of the church before forming churches of their own to dominate every portion of their lives.
Is this the same person that spoke at Rick Perry's wildly illegal sectarian prayer rally?
The one that said she was "a demonic idol"?
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...Wait, WHY is Perry even being CONSIDERED for president!?
Yeah. It's pretty sick. I've also heard that it's a statue of a man in drag, representing Lucifer. The Freemasons are into homosexuality (they dress in drag in many of their rituals and wear bottomless "aprons" that leave the butt exposed to communicate their homosexual status to others) and paganism (admitted Lucifer-worship; it's in their books), so this would make sense, sadly. :(
Brendan, yes, I'm being sarcastic about the Freemasons because I know what they're really about. I had an uncle who was a Mason and he told me all about the homosexual subtext of their false religion. Their uniforms are small aprons that cover the genitals. They are probably not meant to be homosexual in nature, but the fact that they intentionally leave the Mason's behind exposed is a bit suggestive and strange.
@His4Life
You say it like homosexuality is a BAD thing. It's not. It's just a normal, if poorly understood, condition that affects a consistent portion of the Human population(and some other highly social animals). I imagine that perhaps there could be a gay faction of the Masons, because where else would a homosexual hundreds of years ago turn, other than the Clergy?
And since when does Masonry purport itself as a different religion? That makes about as much sense as saying that a little boy's secret club with a complicated handshake is a new religion.
And I resent that you call it a "false" religion, at that. All religions are EQUALLY false. You're no better than a Hindi, scientologist, or Satanist. They're all bunk.
@His4Life
While I do remember stripping down to my boxers before my initiation, there were no bare asses in my degrees...
Also, anyone that says that the Freemasons are in anyway into man on man action needs to find a new fantasy. The Masonic side of my family is one of the few groups of people that I am still in the closet towards, and to be honest I'll probably never fully come out to most of them. While there are no rules against being gay per say, several of the members of the fraternity are very religious and lightly to moderately homophobic. Although hardliners like His4Life tend to find themselves out of place very quickly because the society is deeply pluralistic and apolitical.
-An inactive Mason, and a senior DeMolay...
Stormwarden, some of them may have been. Historically, the Masons were at one time a Christian society, but were later infiltrated and usurped by a man named Dr. Adam Weishaupt, who started a group called the Bavarian Illuminati or Perfectibilists. Dr. Weishaupt was gay and made reforms within Masonry to reduce the Christian elements and bring in a ruling core group of homosexual members, who eventually took complete control of the organization. He had a student named Albert Pike who would later further his reforms. I do know that George Washington, at least, stood against Weishaupt, because we have letters from Washington indicating his opposition to the Illuminati Masons. But, could some of the other founders have been corrupted? Maybe. I don't know. I am not so naive as to think that every one among them was a perfect angel.
@His4Life
Reading comprehension, lady. He said he stripped down to his boxers BEFORE the initiation, presumably to change into something else.
And that illuminati-mason link is a serious [CITATION NEEDED.]
And again, even if the masons were populated entirely by gays, who cares? Whoopty doo for them. It doesn't matter.
Then he also needs reading comprehension, since I didn't say that Masons had bare asses, just that they wore costumes that were suggestive. Everything in Masonry is symbolic. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what a costume that covers the man's genitals (i.e., conceals his masculinity) while leaving his back door exposed (even if he's wearing pants under it) would mean.
The link provides citations - to actual Masonic books, no less. Albert Pike is a real Freemason. He wrote "Morals and Dogma" and there is a statue of him in Washington D.C. I visited a Prince Hall Lodge with my husband once, and they had copies of his book on display in their library. This is the same book that describes orgies and refers to Satan as the source of a Mason's "light."
Um, everybody knows that the Queen of Heaven is Asherah. Dur. "Lady Liberty" is just a personification, in the same way that we don't believe that "Death" is really some old dude in a black cape with a sickle. It's there to make an artist's job easier.
@His4life:
Their uniforms are small aprons that cover the genitals. They are probably not meant to be homosexual in nature, but the fact that they intentionally leave the Mason's behind exposed is a bit suggestive and strange.
So an organization that claims to stem from ancient artisans has as part of their traditional attire aprons (as artisans were and often are still prone to wear and which have it in their very nature as aprons that they only cover the front of the body and leave the backside empty) and your first conclusion is “teh Ghey”?
I sometimes work as a waiter and wear an apron then. Does that mean I am unwittingly taking part in gay orgies when I do so? My mother wears an apron while cooking. What does that say about her?
What about blacksmiths? They are usually wearing leather aprons while working on the forge. Does that mean they are all into gay S&M?
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