Mister Spak

"Going into excruciating detail about some FICTIONAL cartoon characters as if they were real?"

Ahem . . .

9/12/2011 4:56:54 AM

Midnight

"...One could not perceivably "christianise" something that is inherently evil.
..."

I honestly wouldn't hold my breath on that one, if I were you. History is replete with examples of how Christianity (along with every other monotheistic religion)has been used to legitimize various actions against fellow human beings that can easily be construed as "evil".

Think the Spanish Inquisition, for instance, or maybe the Salem Witch Trials. Those are actually fairly minor examples, off the top of my head.

Just a word to the wise, though. *shrugs*

The rest of your post is an almost classical example of syncretism: the attempt to reconcile disparate or contrary beliefs, often while melding practices of various schools of thought.

Or, in the vernacular: "Maximum Fail".

9/12/2011 7:34:57 AM

FinalArbiterOfMyMorality

DISNEY! Fucktard.

9/12/2011 7:45:03 AM

Not religious but I agree, anime is for fags

9/12/2011 9:38:32 AM

CCMars

You know, most of what he's talking about I've mostly seen in Hentai...one wonders what anime HE is watching.

Going into excruciating detail about some FICTIONAL cartoon characters as if they were real?

Your hypocrisy aside, I myself like analyzing characters I'm really fond of. If you have your viewers doing this, it's a sign you're succeeding somewhere. I'm not sure who said this, but it's great advice for writers: "Make a person, not a character."

...and, technically speaking, ALL anime/manga is of the same roots.

Is this guy aware that the "Godfather of Anime", Osamu Tezuka, considered Walt Disney a large influence?

Anime is MAINLY for adults, evidenced by the storylines.

Ever seen a Studio Ghibli film? Many of their films are child friendly.

Most of the more "adult" stuff is shown late at night or, in hentai's case, on DVD. Japan also has a belief that anime is for children, believe it or not.

Even if there WERE such a thing as CHRISTIAN anime, the roots would STILL be there. One could not perceivably "christianise" something that is inherently evil.

Superbook would like a word with you.

9/12/2011 10:03:50 AM

Ludd

"Even if there WERE such a thing as CHRISTIAN anime, the roots would STILL be there. One could not perceivably "christianise" something that is inherently evil."

- Considering Christianity's roots are the mythological and ritual traditions of pagan mystery cults I find this comment particularly hilarious.

9/12/2011 11:00:42 AM

Mintywolf

Hey, it's a moron who doesn't know the difference between 'medium' and 'genre'.

He may as well say 'the genre of movies is bad, because porn movies are from the same source arglebargle'.

9/12/2011 12:30:29 PM

beehummingbird

@CCMars

"Is this guy aware that the "Godfather of Anime", Osamu Tezuka, considered Walt Disney a large influence?"

Osamu? That sounds a bit too much like Osama. or even worse...Obama.

Proof that Obama is the antichrist and anime is his tool of destruction to bring down America!!!!!!!!!!!

9/12/2011 1:09:18 PM

Comrade Potatovich

You know, I'd be pretty freaked out by Evangelion if I were a hardcore Christian.

9/13/2011 2:19:45 AM

Huh

Heh. Most brutal? Don't make me laugh. I highly you ever read Hellsing or Beerserk (Among others). Your head would have exploded.

EDIT: Heh, Beerserk >.> I meant Berserk, not some dude angry because they don't more booze.

9/13/2011 6:34:00 AM

Rat of Steel

(Huh)
EDIT: Heh, Beerserk >.> I meant Berserk, not some dude angry because they don't more booze.

Make the mistake of getting between a Viking and his ale, and you'll see remarkably little difference there, methinks. *grins*

9/13/2011 8:08:55 AM

Anon-e-moose

@Brendan Rizzo, Rat of Steel, Raised By Horses, J. James, TWoozl, Lpopman, Murf, Greater Good, TakoTaco*, Rapax Pringer, rebel...

(*sings*):

...and Uncle Tom Cobley and all, and Uncle Tom Cobley and all!'

I see you shiver, with antici...



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...pation! [/"Rocky Horror Picture Show"] X3

Ahem. Step back, ladies and germs of FSTDT, I'll handle this...:

(*cracks knuckles*)

"anime/manga is directly associated with the anime/manga that portrays girls AND women as throwaway toys, only good for sex and abuse?"

O RLY? Seems you haven't watched very much anime, then Toddy-boy.

Major Motoko Kusanagi ("Ghost in the Shell")
Deunan Knute ("Appleseed")
Lacus Clyne ("Gundam SEED/Destiny")
Konoe Tsurugi ("Hanaukyo Maids/La Verite")
Eclair, Lumiere, Tweedledee, Mercredi/Pfeilspitze/Hiver, Eclipse, Alv, Dvergr, Q-Feuille, Ascoeur, Trixie, Troisienne, Rubis, Saphir ("Kiddy Grade/Girl-and")
Sakura Kinomoto ("CardCaptor Sakura")
Nanoha Takamachi, Fate T. Harlaown ("Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha/A's/StrikerS")
Najica Hiiragi ("Najica Blitz Tactics")
Belldandy, Urd, Skuld, Peorth, Lind, Marller, Hild ("Ah! My Goddess")
Rio Kinezono ("Burn Up/W/Excess/Scramble")
January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August, Sep(tember), Oct(ober), Nove(mber), Diesse(mber), Madame Marciano, Angelica Burns, Chelsea Muir, Franca Dochley ("Coyote Ragtime Show")
Faye Valentine, Edward Wong Hau Pepelu Tivruskii IV ("Cowboy Bebop")
Shinobu, Kaede (2X2=Shinobuden"**)
Ranpha Franboise, Forte Stollen, Milfeulle Sakuraba, Mint Blamanche, Vanilla H, Chitose Karasuma, Apricot Sakuraba, Kahlua/Tequila Marjoram, Anise Azeat, Lily C. Sherbet, Nano-nano Pudding ("Galaxy Angel/Rune")
Melfina, Twilight Suzuka, Aisha Clan-Clan ("Outlaw Star")

To name but a few. Oh, and not forgetting the likes of Dita Liebely, Meia Gisborn, Jura Basil Elden, Barnette Orangello, Gascogne Rheingau, Parfet Balblair and Magno Vivan in "Vandread":



'Pai-check!' [/Paiway Underberg] X3

Ergo you, Toddy-boy = Hibiki Tokai (above, r). Q.E. and D.

Never mind blasting an argument out of the space-time continuum, yours has returned - on the fold-drive section of the Event Horizon - back to the Chaos Dimension, to be hideously raped & mutilated for all eternity. Liberate tutame ex inferis.

*- Not for nothing is "Vandread" one of my all-time faves.

**- I can highly recommend this, as the perfect anti-"Naruto"; it's the anime equivalent of "Fawlty Towers" - 12 episodes of pure comedic perfection. Two words: Norio Wakamoto.

@Sandchigger

"Wait, wasn't Superbook basically Christian anime?"

Decades ago, Pat Robertson - via showing "Superbook" on his Christian TV channel - effectively pioneered anime on US TV, popularising the genre there (even before the influence of the likes of Fred Patten & Carl Macek). America is the biggest consumer market for manga/anime outside Japan. Yes, that's right Toddy-boy. A Christian is directly responsible for Yuri/Yaoi/Ecchi/Hentai in the US.

Enjoy your paradox.

@femfem

You need some tea & cake. Relax. ~_^

9/13/2011 8:29:06 AM

William H.

"Don't forget, that anime/manga is directly associated with the anime/manga that portrays girls AND women as throwaway toys, only good for sex and abuse?"

Stop the presses! A fundie actually said something that I agree with!

9/13/2011 10:07:02 AM

Okamishojo

ALL I SEE IS CAPITAL WORDS!!

IT BUURRRNS~!!!!

9/13/2011 2:49:23 PM

I have to say this about most of the readers comments DEFENDING anime/manga: Do you (anime/manga fans) not realize that you are replacing life with this anime/manga hogwash?

Nope, much to my amusement.

9/13/2011 3:18:59 PM

Se7enSages

*slow clap* Bravo, Anon-e-moose! Bravo! I can only imagine how you would blow stuff like this out of the water in PERSON.

As for you, Todd, I may not like everything in the anime/manga genre (Something lighthearted/comedic is indeed my boat) but you don't see me badmouthing it like it's the stupidest thing ever created in the history of human art. Ya don't like anime? DON'T WATCH IT. Don't make SUCH A FLYING FUCKING DEAL about it! We clear?

...

Who am I kidding. He's gonna be back here, I can sense it.

9/13/2011 8:03:55 PM

Anon-e-moose

@Se7enSages

"Who am I kidding. He's gonna be back here, I can sense it."

Stop it, you're turning me on. His tears of impotent rage as I expose his own more than infinite FAIL in person will be ambrosia & nectar to me.

'Sweet. Like money.'

- Maximilian Largo, "Never Say Never Again"

And as for your post, (*Blushy-blushy*) You're too kind. Those expecting me to explode cranially, a la "Scanners", rest assured, I channel my energies into destroying arguments. Which reminds me...:

@#1331710

"Not religious but I agree, anime is for fags"



Never smoked in my life thanks, but I agree, pork meatballs in onion gravy would make for a tasty, nourishing, traditional & wholesome meal whilst watching anime.

Will you be saying 'I love the smell of annihilated arguments - and Americentric (therefore failing) slang terms - in the morning. Smells like... victory.', or shall I? Oh, and you clearly spend too much time on 4chan's /a/ for your own good.

...just saying. ~_^

Continuing on the annihilation theme, as for what Toddy-boy says here:

"Take it from someone who KNOWS about this topic"

Which is Why I'd be glad if he dared show his face round here. I'm suuuuure he'd be able to identify the anime series these characters appear in:



And this:



I'm already savouring the merest whiff of destroyed arguments in the air. And it has notes of... Superiority. >:D

...oh, and as for:

"ALL anime/manga is of the same roots. You can't have one genre of anime, without realizing the extent and brutality of the others."

Toddy-boy has clearly never heard of the likes of "Azumanga Daioh", "K-ON!", "Hidamari Sketch" and "A-Channel". Still smelling those aromas of annihilated arguments in the air, pal. Furthermore...:

"hence the troubling trend of little kids acting like they are gods, superheroes, wizards, and animals."

Almost from the start, has there been characters in anime who are God(desse)s - Belldandy, Urd, Skuld & co. in "Ah! My Goddess". And Urd is the result of God fucking the Leader of Hell, Hild, no less.; superheroes - Joey Jones and his eponymous robot companion in "Heroman"*. Created by Stan Lee, no less.

Wizards?:



^"Ascoeur Potter and the Half-Blood ES-Member"; a 'fantasy' scene from "Kiddy Girl-and" (the 2009 sequel to the 2002 Sci-Fi anime series "Kiddy Grade"). Shows how JK Rowling's creation has such cultural - and influential - power worldwide; and in the space of just several years.

As for 'Animals', Google the word 'Catgirl', Toddy-boy. And have an aneurysm in the process. Three words: "Tokyo Mew Mew". >:D

And lastly...:

"Even if there WERE such a thing as CHRISTIAN anime, the roots would STILL be there. One could not perceivably "christianise" something that is inherently evil"

(INT: Houses of Parliament; House of Commons, post-Prime Minister's Questions)

(*Anon-e-moose MP, Minister for Culture and Fucking-up Fundies approaces the Despatch Box*)

I refer the (Dis)Honourable Member to the answer I gave just a few moments ago. One word:

"Superbook":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superbook

(emphasis added):

'Superbook, also known as Animated Parent and Child Theatre (Anime Oyako Gekijo), is an anime television series produced by Tatsunoko Productions in Japan in conjunction with the Christian Broadcasting Network in the United States.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Broadcasting_Network

(*Pushes Toddy-boy into rear half of the experimental spaceship 'Event Horizon'; closes, locks & seals airlock doors to main crew section of same. Blows locking latches of forward section, separating both sections; activates conventional thrusters to boost away from rearward Fold-Drive section. Watches as - via automatic countdown - fold-drive activates, creating a wormhole-like portal in the fabric of the space-time continuum, taking said rearward section with it; both dimensional portal & ship disappears forever.*)

Liberate tutame ex inferis, Toddy-boy. >:D

...oh, and apologies for my not commenting sooner, minna! As a Sci-Fi fan, and Anime otaku, I do have a life, you know!

(*Runs to avoid blasts from Irony Meters exploding worldwide*) XP X3

*- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroman

9/14/2011 7:49:09 AM

>>"women as throwaway toys, only good for sex and abuse"

I DARE you to say that to Akane Tendo.

-Or Sgt. Leona Ozaki from "Dominion tank police"!

>>Or Haman Karn, from "Zeta Gundam". >_>

Or Riza Hawkeye, from FMA
Hell, Kushina Uzumaki from Naruto!

9/15/2011 12:30:41 AM

Yla

Well, at least he isn't one of those people saying Anime is for kids and only for kids.

9/15/2011 2:51:46 AM

Lizuka

@ J. James:

Plus the horrific violence, the diapers (in the manga), and all of that. Not that I judge Elfen Lied based on that - only seen a little of it and thought it was alright.

9/15/2011 3:15:49 AM

Anon-e-moose

@#1332483

"Or Riza Hawkeye, from FMA"

Or Kaname Chidori, from "FMP". Even Sousuke fears her deadly paper fan! X3

9/15/2011 6:53:59 AM

Fundies Make Me Sick

You are a moron, anime/manga is wonderful and the people who create these wonderful animes/mangas have more of a life than you ever will.

9/15/2011 8:20:41 AM

Anon-e-moose

Just been reading the site this quote's linked to, and it makes me wonder - as one of the anime series condemned by such being "Pokemon" - if the webmaster is a Slowpoke him/herself? When was the last time this site was updated?! Or mayhaps it's better if he/she is, and hasn't kept abreast of anime post-2000 (I mean - "Sailor Moon", "Dragonball Z"?! Their living under a stone levels are OVER 9000! XP )

For a start, one of the underlying motifs in "Kiddy Grade" (2002): immortality. As an 'ability'-user (C, then later G-class) in the GOTT, Eclair is never allowed to die, but is reborn in new bodies (many times in the past, re. flashbacks to her former lives; most of which were bloody & brutal, used by her Nouvlesse/GU masters for their own nefarious ends; thus Alv turning against the Nouvlesse). The concept of eternal life without 'Spiritual salvation'; no latest series of "Torchwood" required.

Then more recently, "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya" (2006). In which a high school girl - without even realising it - is God.

Frankly, Toddy-boy, 'anime/manga that portrays girls AND women as throwaway toys, only good for sex and abuse' is the least of your problems. Three words: "Neon Genesis Evangelion".

9/15/2011 9:00:32 AM

Huh

About strong women... Let's not forget Casca, in the Golden Age...

9/15/2011 2:56:51 PM

whoanelly

Wow, if you hate anime and manga so much, then DON'T WATCH OR READ IT. It's that simple. And it's hard to say something everyone else hasn't when there's been 124 comments, but after reading the second sentence my irony meter went kaboom.
Anon-e-moose, your long posts with all the pictures slow down my computer, but it's worth it because they always make me lol.

9/15/2011 5:55:34 PM