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(Headline: "Did gay activism play a role in the murder of Lawrence King?"}

After all, it is gay activists who constantly remind us that LGBT kids are bullied and even beaten up at school. They tell us how dangerous the school environment is for kids who identify as LGBT, and yet at the same time, they praise kids like Larry for coming out at 10. They even want more Gay Straight Alliances in our middle schools, where pre-teens can declare their gay identity to their peers and faculty advisors without their parents' knowledge. Why? So they can become targets of hatred and potential violence? If our schools really are so "homophobic" and dangerous, why not encourage these kids to keep their sexual orientation to themselves until they're in a safer environment?

Some of the teachers in Larry's school, along with his adoptive father, specifically accused former assistant principal Joy Epstein, an open lesbian, of encouraging Larry's flamboyant behavior in order to promote her "agenda." If there is any truth to this, it is not just irresponsible, it is reprehensible. (At the least, there is no indication that she discouraged his pushy, sexual behavior.) How could an experienced educator act in such a way, especially with a boy who had such a troubled history? And is it possible that Larry could have benefited from ongoing counseling about his sexuality? Yet gay activists adamantly oppose any form of counseling that does not affirm homosexuality.

What about the other administrators? Why didn't they prevent Larry from dressing up like a girl when teachers reported to them that it was causing disruption among the students? The official school answer is that California law, passed at the urging of gay activists, prevents discrimination based on gender identity or expression, and so Larry was able to come to school wearing women's accessories and makeup. Was it fair to push this on Larry's classmates, themselves young teenagers sorting through their own issues of sexual identity? Was it fair to Larry?

And what is to be said of this memo sent out to the entire eighth grade? "We have a student on campus who has chosen to express his sexuality by wearing make-up. It is his right to do so." In eighth grade? His "right?" What a travesty! Yet this is a "right" gay activists aggressively fight for, as if this somehow makes our schools "safer" and provides a better learning environment for all the kids. Nonsense.

It is true that Brandon McInerney murdered Larry King in cold blood, but gay activism is complicit in his death.


Dr. Michael L. Brown , OneNewsNow 72 Comments [9/13/2011 3:10:27 AM]
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Sweet Fancy Moses

"...why not encourage these kids to keep their sexual orientation to themselves until they're in a safer environment?"

They're trying to make schools a safer environment. It's people like you who are making that difficult.

9/13/2011 3:21:44 AM

shykid

Fuck your blame-the-victim bullshit.

It's not anyone's responsibility to act differently or hide who they are to appease you or anyone else. On the other hand, it's everyone's responsibility—including your own—to unconditionally treat others like people deserving of basic human dignity and respect, regardless of who or what they may be, if for no other reason than such social niceties are required by a civilized society with freedom of expression that allows them to speak their own minds and be themselves. Personally, though, I primarily treat others with dignity and respect because I feel tremendous empathy in my heart toward all of my fellow humans, and my conscience tells me that it is the right thing to do.

It doesn't matter whether a hate-crime victim was the queerest queer who ever queered, or whether someone had the "gall" to tell that person that it was okay to always be themselves without fear or shame. The guilt for that individual's death lies solely in the hands of the person who killed him and in the culture that taught said person to believe that differences are shameful and are something that ought to be kept hidden in the company of the "normal" majority. Furthermore, such an oppressive culture of shame, blind conformity, and fear is not only deadly, but it is also inherently detrimental and even antithetical to a free society, as is the gross lack of personal responsibility exhibited by the shifting of blame to victims.

In other words, Dr. Brown, you have blood on your hands.

9/13/2011 3:30:39 AM

Dan Onymous

'Dr' Michael L Brown - what a cunt.

9/13/2011 3:35:34 AM

Argle Bargle

This type of pretend concern enrages me even more than open hate speech. At least morons who scream "god hates fags" are honest. Scum who sugar coat their vileness are both hypocrites and murderers by proxy.

9/13/2011 3:37:57 AM

Yownanymous

Why not encourage the rationally challenged to keep their thoughts to themselves until they're in a safer environment; i.e. any cult religious building?

9/13/2011 3:44:43 AM

Ken's Cell Hates Homophobes

Or maybe we could teach children not to be homophobic little shits. If a kid wants to express himself in a manner outside the norm, that is his right. It's not the smartest thing to do in Jesusland, but Lawrence had guts. The homophobes who bullied him (or any gay child) need a good smack and the boy who killed him deserves much more. And before anything escalates, younger kids DO need to be presented with images of homosexuality as normal. Sorry, dumbass whiny conservative parents. If I have to choose between saving the lives of children and caving to your desire to turn your child into a baby bigot, I'm going to have to choose saving lives.

9/13/2011 4:19:50 AM

David B.

That kind of crap always reminds me of this...

"[T]hey bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let 'em crash." [Airplane, 1980]

9/13/2011 4:24:12 AM

Doctor Whom

I thought you people were against coddling criminals and blaming victims, or is that yet another immutable dogma that you can turn on a dime?

9/13/2011 4:25:58 AM

Mister Spak

"After all, it is gay activists who constantly remind us that LGBT kids are bullied and even beaten up at school"

And it's christian activists who oppose anti bullying programs so beating up can continue.

"If our schools really are so "homophobic" and dangerous, why not encourage these kids to keep their sexual orientation to themselves until they're in a safer environment?"

Where's that? A christian workplace where christian adults bully gay adults? A christian America where christian legislators require gay adults to wear pink triangles?

"If there is any truth to this,"

Since the claim comes from a christian activist, there probably isn't.

It is true that Brandon McInerney murdered Larry King in cold blood, but christian activism is making excuses to justify it.

9/13/2011 4:36:07 AM

Think or GTFO

"why not encourage these kids to keep their sexual orientation to themselves until they're in a safer environment?"

That goes for straights too of course.

9/13/2011 4:46:18 AM

Meishayuri

Those damn gay activists! What a delusional idiot.

9/13/2011 5:03:10 AM

dionysus

This is the same argument rape apologists use only instead of bitching about women not being modest enough, you're bitching about gays being too gay. Gay bullying apologists are every bit as sick and twisted as rape apologists.

9/13/2011 5:48:42 AM

Doubting Thomas

So basically what you're saying is, "Get the fuck back in the closet or we'll beat the shit out of you." How nice. Claiming that kids being gay are forcing people to beat them up and kill them is not logical. That's like saying all those dang black people forced the KKK to lynch them because they had the audacity to show their dark skin in public.

I'd really like to know what you're a doctor of, if anything. You're certainly not a qualified psychologist.

9/13/2011 6:11:26 AM

toth

Somehow, "Die in a fire" doesn't seem nearly strong enough...

9/13/2011 6:22:56 AM

snowjohnson

Larry was 14 and had no "troubled history" you dick. He was a child figuring out who he was. His only "crime" was that he asked brandon to be his valentine. As a man who was beaten for being openly gay in school, I say FUCK YOU!! Words cannot describe how much I loathe you. Please suicide bomb yourself into the afa with bryan fischer.

9/13/2011 6:26:22 AM

Tallyho

"Brown graduated from Queens College in 1977 with a B. A. in Hebrew, and earned his M.A. in Near Eastern Languages and Literatures in 1981 and his Ph.D. in Near Eastern Languages in Literature in 1985, both from New York University. His doctoral thesis was "I Am the Lord Your Healer": A Philological Study of the Root rapa' in the Hebrew Bible and the Ancient Near East."

Dr.? - Like Dr Dino it would seem! fuck off!

9/13/2011 6:32:45 AM

Tallyho

OK a bit more real than Dr Dino but still - fuck off!

9/13/2011 6:33:58 AM

The_L

Larry saying "I'm gay," is not flamboyant unless he does so loudly, obnoxiously, and repeatedly. Saying "I'm gay" is neither pushy or sexual--it is simply a statement of fact, not an invitation to sex.

Also, if adults in this country have rights, than an eighth-grader damn well better have rights! If a teenager cannot express himself, then we are saying that the First Amendment is meaningless and that the U.S. Constitution is a worthless piece of paper. Think about that.

9/13/2011 6:40:33 AM

aaa

You seriously are redefining the upper limits of assholedom.

9/13/2011 6:54:13 AM

loki

You are the guilty one here. With your bullshit you are as guilty as the murderer himself. So, you are a MURDERER! And I bet you are very proud of it you stupid little piece of shit

9/13/2011 6:55:55 AM

JSS

Well, yeah. I mean, it's not like schools could prevent the bullying that goes on. Those being picked should change their ways, after all, bullies have a right to bully!

And yes, gay people should go into counseling so as to be given the placebo "cure" for their sexuality, and of course, to be given the compassionate "We love you, but hate who you are" message.

And of course, we should completely overlook Brandon's background of growing up with Nazi paraphenalia.


I never knew it took around eight years of study to become a murder apologist. So like, can you look in a mirror now or how does that work?

9/13/2011 6:57:03 AM

Panz

Admitting your gay is activism equal to murdering gay people, is that about the jist of your long winded rant?

9/13/2011 6:59:35 AM

StoneSpiral

I don't care what actions a person has taken, a civilian killing them for it isn't culturally acceptable any more.

The persons in the wrong here are you and the boy who's brain got so screwed up he though murdering a peer was a brilliant idea.

9/13/2011 7:11:23 AM

Papabear

So, your idea is that the acts of pointing out injustice and violence are the causes of injustice and violence? You're a f*ckin' moron.

9/13/2011 7:19:35 AM

breakereslion

... and if the Unibomber had a better home life, maybe he wouldn't be a fucked-up murdering son of a bitch either.

Brandon is a murderer. It is doubtful he ever had contact with a gay activist. I could easily come up with a scenario wherein Dr. Brown is partly to blame for 9/11, because he supported dangerous government policies or failed to contribute somehow to the welfare of Afghanistan. Spreading the blame in this manner is bullshit. What about Brandon's parents? They might have worked a little harder on teaching their spawn boundaries. /rant

9/13/2011 7:35:45 AM
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