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“A decade ago, it seemed the side of darkness had conquered,” said New York Archbishop Timothy M. Dolan, noting that time has proven that “the side of angels, not demons” has prevailed.

“There were no atheists here on 9/11 in New York,” he said. “My message today is that God has the last word.

Archbishop Timothy M. Dolan, Camels with Hammers 77 Comments [9/14/2011 3:45:52 AM]
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The muslims would say the same thing, albeit for a different reason.

You are all idiots.

9/14/2011 7:17:08 AM

Zeus Almighty

Hey archbishop, get back to me when your church stops raping kids and covering it up.
That should keep you busy for a while.

9/14/2011 7:31:13 AM


Really? The thought that went through my head when it happened was that now people might finally start to realize that the Abrahamic religions are perhaps inherently violent and harmful, that they might start to turn against them and question their assumptions and values. A kind of revulsion not just against Islam, but against religion itself, was what I felt.

9/14/2011 7:33:59 AM


"My message today is that God has the last word."

So you worship Allah eh, Bish? Just so's we know.

Mohammed: has sex with a nine-year old girl. Paedophile priests in the Catholic church.

Aw, c'mon, bish. It's no fun when you fundies do our work for us! I like a challenge, when it comes to annihilating the arguments of you fundies; stimulates the ol' intellect. Throw we Atheists a fricken bone, here! [/Dr. Evil] (*grump*) >:(

9/14/2011 8:20:44 AM


"My message today is that God has the last word."

It wasn't God that caused the 9-11 disaster. It was religion.

9/14/2011 8:28:57 AM


A perfect demonstration of how wrong-headed religion is when it tries to tackle something like Islamist terrorism. To hear the Archbishop sum up the situation, the problem isn't that the terrorists believe some indefensibly stupid things about the nature of the universe; the problem is that they believe the WRONG indefensibly stupid things about the universe.

9/14/2011 8:34:57 AM

Argle Bargle

It's more or less a mangled version of "no atheists in foxholes".

This type of callous behavior is usually seen from Catholic priests, who'll use just about any opportunity to hammer away with dogma.

9/14/2011 8:51:06 AM


How do you know there weren't any? And you have more in common with the terrorists than atheists do.

9/14/2011 8:51:54 AM


“There were no atheists here on 9/11 in New York,” he said.

Yeah, there were. And they were just as horrified as everybody else. But they weren't praying about it, since they probably felt that it would be pointless.

9/14/2011 9:36:22 AM


I was an atheist on 9/11 2001 and I am still an atheist on it's tenth anniversary.
It wasn't prayer that got anything done on that day, or any day since, it was people actually rolling up their sleeves and getting to work.
My question to the bishop hasn't changed, "Where is your god now?"

9/14/2011 9:48:13 AM


I'm not sure who has "prevailed" in the past decade- People who manufacture prostheses? People who buy up foreclosures? People all over the world who get a kick out of seeing the Us throw its money away? I wouldn't say they were on the side of the angels, assuming you mean good angels.

9/14/2011 10:13:09 AM

> “There were no atheists here on 9/11 in New York,”

"... and the half dozen rash spirits that ventured to disapprove of the war and cast a doubt upon its righteousness straightway got such a stern and angry warning that for their personal safety's sake they quickly shrank out of sight and offended no more in that way."

- Mark Twain: The War Prayer (1905)

9/14/2011 10:17:38 AM


Ten years ago last Sunday, terrorists hijacked and flew planes into the World Trade Center. Two days afterwards, a couple of evangelicals used this tragedy to further their own religious and political beliefs.

Now we reflect on this tragedy at it's ten year anniversary, and look at what has changed since then. Of course, some things always stay the same...

9/14/2011 10:20:27 AM

Dr. Razark

Science flies people to the moon.

Religion flies planes into buildings.

9/14/2011 10:20:54 AM

= POPE =

“There were no atheists here on 9/11 in New York,”

Delusional, or a lie. Either way, I think it's time to revise an old canard.

Those who can, do. Those who can't, join the clergy. Would I be seeing any calluses on your pudgy, manicured hands then, MISTER Dolan? Or would you prefer the title, Your Utter Fucking Dis-Grace?

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9/14/2011 10:23:06 AM


to all who said the archbishop is an idiot, i take offense to that. "why?" you say? am i an archbishop? no, i'm an idiot

silly joke, but i had to put it.

on the title:
camels... desert... arabic peninsula... oh, i get it! muslims!

hammers... tools... sickles... oh, i get it! communism!!

so, communist muslims?


@ joe mama, if i may add to your list, if god exists, fuck him too

9/14/2011 10:48:05 AM


sorry double post

9/14/2011 11:11:45 AM


It's the same God, right?

9/14/2011 11:36:30 AM

Thinking Allowed

I have to wonder if the goodly archbishop went around to every New Yorker and asked if they were an atheist that day. Quite a feat if you ask me.

9/14/2011 11:51:14 AM


Archbishop, it's assholes like you who make me question if I want to associate myself with Catholicism anymore. You dicks -- and the Protestant dicks, too -- are responsible for my crisis of faith.

9/14/2011 12:18:39 PM


I bet you asked every single person there what their religion was, right?

9/14/2011 12:45:46 PM

Old Viking

If it involves death and violence on a massive scale, you can be sure God is involved.

9/14/2011 1:06:07 PM


[My message today is that God has the last word.]
It wasn't god who caused 9\11. It was his followers.

9/14/2011 1:11:33 PM


@ Spukikitty and \m/>_<\m/:

I don't think the name is meant as a slur against Muslims or Arabs or Muslim Communists or anything like that.

The author of Camels with Hammers says that the name is a reference to Nietzsche. And he's comparing himself with the camel in question. So unless the author is an Arab himself, I don't think it can be taken as a sign of anti-Arab sentiment.

Though, yeah, it still calls to mind some incredibly strange mental images.

9/14/2011 1:21:56 PM


Hmm, I'm an atheist, and I escaped from the 85th floor of Tower 1.

Imagine that.

Oh and go fuck yourself and die-in-a-fire Dolan.

(on a side note, I was thankful to the structural engineers for a building that stood long enough to evacuate not only myself and my co-workers, but several thousands of people.)

9/14/2011 2:18:59 PM

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