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One of the reasons many Christians cannot answer the question about Cain’s wife is that they tend to look at today’s world and the problems that would be associated with close relations marrying, and they do not look at the clear historical record God has given to us.
They try to interpret Genesis from our present situation rather than understand the true biblical history of the world and the changes that have occurred because of sin. Because they are not building their worldview on Scripture but taking a secular way of thinking to the Bible, they are blinded to the simple answers.
Genesis is the record of the God who was there as history happened. It is the Word of One who knows everything and who is a reliable Witness from the past. Thus, when we use Genesis as a basis for understanding history, we can make sense of evidence which would otherwise be a real mystery. You see, if evolution is true, science has an even bigger problem than Cain’s wife to explain—namely, how could man ever evolve by mutations (mistakes) in the first place, since that process would have made everyone’s children deformed? The mere fact that people can produce offspring that are not largely deformed is a testimony to creation, not evolution.

Ken Ham , Answers In Genesis 87 Comments [9/15/2011 3:50:49 AM]
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Dan Onymous

Building a worldview based on the intellectual acrobatics you have to go through to maintain a literal view of Genesis =/= a worldview built on scripture.

Adding bits to scripture is just as wrong for you as it is for anyone else, dickhead.

9/15/2011 4:09:41 AM

Matante

What makes you think we aren't deformed? If a random homo habilis girl gave birth to a homo sapiens baby, she'd freak out seeing what an awful baby she had.

9/15/2011 4:16:54 AM

Anon2

Ken Ham, thats a very nice word salad. Thank you.

Ken, now would YOU please answer me the question who was Cain's wife?

9/15/2011 4:25:05 AM

Serph-no-Okami

I'd go as far as saying that eating and breathing through the same hole is one heck of a deformation. Not to mention that crappy ass backbone that has to support our weight or that lousy piece of gut that just hangs there between your small and large intestine, waiting to explode and kill you. Creation my arse.

9/15/2011 4:25:17 AM

ILoveScotch,ScotchyScotchScotch,Hereitgoesdown,downintomybelly

A high school biology textbook might be useful in this situation. I know Ham would never actually read one, but beating the shit out of him with one would be poetic.

9/15/2011 4:34:28 AM

fmitchell

So, Ken, who was Cain's wife?

Or is Ken saying that Cain a) bore children by himself, or b) boinked his mother ... after his exile? Even if evolution were wrong, Ken still hasn't answered the question.

As some hippie freak said, "First take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."

9/15/2011 4:37:33 AM

Radaghast

Evolution.... YOUR DOING IT RONG!!!11!!1

9/15/2011 4:40:21 AM

Sadhuman

The human body it is so perfect...nope wait it's not. Also please explain to me how Adam and Eve are made at the same time and then Adam first and then Eve from a rib. I mean it is written by your God, he was there...he couldn't screw that up could he?

9/15/2011 4:40:51 AM

Raised by Horses

Historical revisionism: For when evidence is not on your side.

9/15/2011 4:44:06 AM

Atheissimo

Who are you to say what is and what isn't a deformity? A deformity is simply a deviation from what we understand to be a 'normal' human appearence.

If somebody from the 11th century were to come to the present they'd wonder what happened to fill the world with so many gigantic 6ft tall freaks. We don't consider this height to be abnormal because it is common anongst humans these days, but back then it was fairly unusual.

All offspring are 'deformed' in some way as they are not identical to a single human archetype. However, only those that are radically different are classed as 'deformed'

9/15/2011 4:49:33 AM

Ken's Cell Hates Bad Science

Evolution didn't make the X-Men or Quasimodo. It made people with bigger, better brains and other useful adaptaions.

9/15/2011 4:54:48 AM

LDM

Just answer the damn question, who was Cain's wife, and where did she come from?


9/15/2011 4:58:04 AM

Anon2

Ken Ham provided here a very fine example of the "Red Herring" logical fallacy.

"A red herring is a deliberate attempt to divert a process of enquiry by changing the subject."

Of course Ken Ham cannot answer the question who Cain's wife was. As for any frauds, he diverts immediately from this uncomfortable question by babbling the usual nonsense, like "true biblical history", that "one must build his worldview on scripture", and similiar meaningless bullshit.

Ken Ham is no better than a quack, who, when you complain that the "medicine" he sold you is useless, immediately answers that "established academic medicine has a lot of problems and kills thousands of people each year!"

9/15/2011 4:58:13 AM

Extraintrovert

Humans are quite deformed, actually. We have a gargantuan brain case, we walk upright (putting enormous strain on our spinal column and internal organs), flat faces, protruding noses, and we have very little hair. Then again, creationists deliberately misrepresenting what words mean is no news.

9/15/2011 5:00:56 AM

John

how could man ever evolve by mutations (mistakes) in the first place, since that process would have made everyone’s children deformed?

What is a "mistake"? No two of us have the same genes. So are mine right and yours the mistake? Or maybe it's the other way around.

9/15/2011 5:12:40 AM

D Laurier

-Cain's wife was a stranger he met when he went to the land of Nod.
Ergo; there were other people
-He was marked by Gawd (or Yawah, or Jehova)to prevent strangers from killing him.
Ergo; there were other people.

Kinda knocks your whole "Adam and Eve were the first and only people" nonsense on it's arse.

Science has long explained why deformity is a rare event. YOU Ken are the one who needs to do the explaining.

9/15/2011 5:23:05 AM

John

Because they are not building their worldview on Scripture but taking a secular way of thinking to the Bible, they are blinded to the simple answers.

When a six year old breaks a lamp, he tries to get his mom to interpret the broken lamp from the "worldview" that lamps sometimes break themselves or there was an earthquake or maybe aliens shot it with their death ray. But Mom persists in her secular way of thinking that the football lying among the shards must have had something to do with it.

It's not Mom who is blind to the simple answers, Ken. Neither are most of us. It's the one who invents off-the-wall excuses out of thin air to avoid admitting he's full of it.

9/15/2011 5:41:06 AM

N. De Plume

Originally posted by Ken Ham

It is the Word of One who knows everything and who is a reliable Witness from the past.

Indeed. Such a reliable witness he has to tell two different creation stories back-to-back!

9/15/2011 6:00:54 AM

Mister Spak

"One of the reasons many Christians cannot answer the question about Cain’s wife is that they tend to look at today’s world and the problems that would be associated with close relations marrying, and they do not look at the clear historical record God has given to us.
They try to interpret Genesis from our present situation rather than understand the true biblical history of the world and the changes that have occurred because of sin. Because they are not building their worldview on Scripture but taking a secular way of thinking to the Bible, they are blinded to the simple answers. "

Is that why you fundies wives are also your sisters?

9/15/2011 6:08:01 AM

Panz

Ok retard, follow along here

Person inbreeds, their kids appear fine, their kids inbreed and their kids appear fine, over and over again till eventually you start getting more and more and more screwed up offspring till they're complete vegetables.

Do you see at all how this conflicts with your "Everyone came from two people" bullshit yet?

9/15/2011 6:12:11 AM

Reverend Jeremiah

Yeah..umm..whatever...


Now that you are done babbling, can we get back to the origin of Cain's wife again?

I await your answer.

9/15/2011 6:26:19 AM

Gawd


Translation: He fucked his sister and we can't think of any way out of it other than, "Incest used to be okay".

9/15/2011 6:30:13 AM



Dodging the question, how typical.

9/15/2011 6:32:56 AM

Kaiser

I'd like to interrogate the witness, please.

9/15/2011 6:40:06 AM

Doubting Thomas

So, in other words, you can't explain where Cain's wife came from either, can you? But instead of an honest "I don't know," you serve up a helping of bullshit along with an attack on evolution.

9/15/2011 6:43:23 AM
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