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You clearly do not understand that the Constitution as the social contract that it is. Muslims have NO INTENTION of ever respecting your property rights, infidel. To them, you are not a fellow citizen deserving respect for your rights, but are instead lower than dirt. They are USING your respect for the Constitution against you, and laughing up their sleeves at what they intend to do to civic respect for your unalienable rights once they wield power. They are not participants in that social contract and are therefore undeserving of its protections. Upon reading the Quran, Jefferson understood that, and considered Islam a mortal threat to this nation should it ever be established here.

Carry_Okie, Free Republic 59 Comments [9/30/2011 3:55:49 AM]
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#1336547
\m/>_<\m/

no he did not you idiot. read the quran first. the constitution should also be read by you.
now quit picking on muslims and grow up and smarten up, bigot

9/30/2011 4:01:23 AM
#1336553
Percy Q. Shunn

LOL!

You idiots never cease to amaze me with your stupidity.

All religions are a threat to our liberty; yours in particular.

It is you who does not understand The Constitution of The United States of America.

9/30/2011 4:20:14 AM
#1336556
Extraintrovert

Oh shiny mirror, to which I pray,
Tell my who I should insult today!

Seriously, my irony meter almost collapsed reading this. This person has no empathy or self-awareness whatsoever.

9/30/2011 4:33:51 AM
#1336559
Mister Spak

Why are you talking to a mirror?

9/30/2011 4:45:06 AM
#1336565


civic respect for your unalienable rights

Civic respect simply allows us to live our lives relatively trouble free. But it's no guarantee that things will remain this way. When said civil respect is diminished or disappears completely, then it's my personal responsibility alone to see that my unailienable rights as a human being are upheld. And, yes, that usually means with violence.

once they wield power

You are only as enslaved as you allow yourself to be. Pretty much sums it up.

9/30/2011 5:15:09 AM
#1336566
Raised by Horses

So I take it that the whole ramble about being "Christians first, Americans second" was just a big joke, right?

9/30/2011 5:18:26 AM
#1336571
Hertzyscowicz

Perhaps the same could be said of all religions...

9/30/2011 5:34:52 AM
#1336572
Zeus Almighty

You clearly do not understand that the Constitution as the social contract that it is. Catholics* have NO INTENTION of ever respecting your property rights, heretic. To them, you are not a fellow citizen deserving respect for your rights, but are instead lower than dirt. They are USING your respect for the Constitution against you, and laughing up their sleeves at what they intend to do to civic respect for your unalienable rights once they wield power. They are not participants in that social contract and are therefore undeserving of its protections.

* Substitute Jews, Mormons, atheists, gays, Democrats, blacks, Hindus, peaceniks, uppity women, radical lesbians, Buddhists, Mexicans, etc., as needed.

9/30/2011 5:35:28 AM
#1336573
TGRwulf

Hmmm, sounds more like you guys to me.

Oh, and you MIGHT want to do a little better research about Jefferson. You'ld be surprised how much he actually disagreed with you fundie nutbags.

9/30/2011 5:40:57 AM
#1336575
musicalbookworm

Why am I not surprised this was written by an Okie? Sweetie learn to read before you join in on the grown-ups conversations. Jefferson did not have a problem with people of any religion as long as they kept it to themselves.

9/30/2011 5:43:17 AM
#1336581
breakerslion

E Pluribus Unum.

"You clearly do not understand that the Constitution as the social contract that it is."

The Equal Protection Clause of the 14th amendment of the U.S. Constitution prohibits states from denying any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. See U.S. Const. amend. XIV. In other words, the laws of a state must treat an individual in the same manner as others in similar conditions and circumstances. A violation would occur, for example, if a state prohibited an individual from entering into an employment contract because he or she was a member of a particular race. The equal protection clause is not intended to provide "equality" among individuals or classes but only "equal application" of the laws. The result, therefore, of a law is not relevant so long as there is no discrimination in its application. By denying states the ability to discriminate, the equal protection clause of the Constitution is crucial to the protection of civil rights. - http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/Equal_protection


Is it really so fucking hard to do a little research before you open your yap and shove your whole leg in it?




9/30/2011 6:01:16 AM
#1336583
Doubting Thomas

YOU clearly don't understand the Constitution, because it says that EVERYONE has the same protections and freedoms under the law. That's the basic underlying principle of the Constitution, and if some people are excluded from having rights that others do, then the Constitution is worthless.

you are not a fellow citizen deserving respect for your rights, but are instead lower than dirt.

You mean like how Christians think of atheists, Muslims, and gay people?

laughing up their sleeves at what they intend to do to civic respect for your unalienable rights once they wield power.

Ironic how you believe that Muslims want to take power so they can deny rights to other people... kind of like how you want to deny rights to them. But I guess it's OK when you do it, huh?

9/30/2011 6:07:23 AM
#1336588
FinalArbiterOfMyMorality

You clearly do not understand that the Constitution as the social contract that it is. Muslims have NO INTENTION of ever respecting your property rights, infidel.
Except for the ones that, you know, do

They are not participants in that social contract and are therefore undeserving of its protections.
Until and unless they actually break the law, yeah, they are. (And the ones that break the law should be treated exactly the same as a Christian/Jew/Atheist/whatever that does the same.)

Upon reading the Quran, Jefferson understood that, and considered Islam a mortal threat to this nation should it ever be established here.
Except that he never said that about Islam. Christianity, on the other hand...


9/30/2011 6:23:30 AM
#1336593
aaa

Never cease to rewrite history, freepers.

9/30/2011 6:57:33 AM
#1336595
Papabear

"You clearly do not understand that the Constitution as the social contract that it is."

Clearly, you don't understand how to construct a sentence.

"Muslims have NO INTENTION of ever respecting your property rights, infidel."

You have to use a mighty broad brush like that to paint all Muslims the same color.

"To them, you are not a fellow citizen deserving respect for your rights, but are instead lower than dirt."

Just as they seem to be "lower than dirt" to you.

"They are USING your respect for the Constitution against you, and laughing up their sleeves at what they intend to do to civic respect for your unalienable rights once they wield power."

So, your idea is to respect the constitution by violating other people's rights? Good thinking.

"They are not participants in that social contract and are therefore undeserving of its protections."

In my reading of the constitution I can't find a place where it says that a person's inalienable rights can be violated because they are of a certain religion.

"Upon reading the Quran, Jefferson understood that, and considered Islam a mortal threat to this nation should it ever be established here."

Jefferson also understood that much of the Bible was worthless crap. Perhaps we should ignore all of Jefferson's works because he was "lower than dirt" and therefore had no right to write any of our founding documents.


9/30/2011 7:03:03 AM
#1336596
kuribo

you mean the same jefferson that thought the bible was so awful that he said he would never associate his god with it?

that's the guy you think wanted to oppress muslims?

9/30/2011 7:05:14 AM
#1336598
Bollox

And all Muslims think exactly the same things. You know, just like all Christians do.

(Sarcasm, OK?)

9/30/2011 7:07:50 AM
#1336599
SpukiKitty

So much wrong here:

"You clearly do not understand that the Constitution as the social contract that it is. Muslims have NO INTENTION of ever respecting your property rights, infidel. To them, you are not a fellow citizen deserving respect for your rights, but are instead lower than dirt. They are USING your respect for the Constitution against you, and laughing up their sleeves at what they intend to do to civic respect for your unalienable rights once they wield power."

Funny, I'd say the same about you Puritan fundies & bigots. You wouldn't have gotten far with your hate babblin' if it weren't for the 1st Amendment. Other otherwise super-free societies (freer & saner than ours) actually have laws against hate-speech. Britain banned Mike Wiener (or 'Savage' as he calls himself). Canada banned Chick Tracts, etc.

"They are not participants in that social contract and are therefore undeserving of its protections."

Yes they are, you bonzo! First Amendment guarantees that as well!

"Upon reading the Quran, Jefferson understood that, and considered Islam a mortal threat to this nation should it ever be established here."

(To the tune of 'Bringing In The Sheaves')
Lyin' for the Lawd! Lyin' for the Lawd! The Founders ADMIRED the Muuussslims! Lyin' for the LAAAWWWDDD!!!!!

Apart from the obvious "Pot/Kettle" thing, the IslamoFundies believe the same draconian crap you do, so please kindly shut up about Muslims, okay, Puritans?

9/30/2011 7:08:20 AM
#1336602
Number 6

Mirror, mirror, on the wall/
who's the fundiest of them all?

I'm pretty sure Jefferson considered all religions a mortal threat to his secular republic- yours included.

9/30/2011 7:10:45 AM
#1336603
freako104

My aunt was married in a Mosque in DC. In the 60's. It has not been a threat to freedom.

9/30/2011 7:13:21 AM
#1336605
Jezebel's Evil Sister

"Upon reading the Quran, Jefferson understood that, and considered Islam a mortal threat to this nation should it ever be established here."

"Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination."

— Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom

THAT Thomas Jefferson? I don't think so!

9/30/2011 7:13:52 AM
#1336610
Pup

Odd, I thought the constitution was a legal document.

9/30/2011 7:26:32 AM
#1336614
Reckoner

Another coward afraid that a measly 1% of the population is on the verge of taking over our government.

9/30/2011 7:37:29 AM
#1336617
emau99

You clearly do not understand that the Constitution as the social contract that it is.

Well, I certainly understand certain aspects of it. Freedom of religion, for example.

[b]Muslims have NO INTENTION of ever respecting your property rights, infidel.

To them, you are not a fellow citizen deserving respect for your rights, but are instead lower than dirt.

Sort of like fundamentalist Christians and gays?

They are USING your respect for the Constitution against you, and laughing up their sleeves at what they intend to do to civic respect for your unalienable rights once they wield power.

Sort of like fundamentalist Christians and everybody else?

They are not participants in that social contract and are therefore undeserving of its protections.

Cite the relevant portions of the Constitution, please.

Upon reading the Quran, Jefferson understood that, and considered Islam a mortal threat to this nation should it ever be established here.

Actually, Jefferson considered any religion to be a mortal threat, should it gain the force of law. That's why he and his colleagues worked so hard to make sure the US government is SECULAR.

"In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own."
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Horatio G. Spafford, March 17, 1814

9/30/2011 7:44:33 AM
#1336618
J. James

So, you say that ALL the Moslems want to take away your rights, and therefore you're entitled to take away their constitutional rights?

Two words: Fuck you.

Not that I even particularly like Moslems. They're annoying, pious little shits, and they're possibly the only human beings on earth more fundy than the likes of you.

But there's the keyword: human beings. The constitution you claim to adore- but actively try to subvert- promises ALL people rights, regardless of how odious they are.

Not that I'd expect a bigoted troglodyte like you to understand the greatness of the living constitution.

On another note, how the FUCK do you expect the Moslems to take over America? We are a Democracy, see, and that means you can't have control unless you are the vast majority of the population. Currently, Moslems are a miniscule minority. It's like McCarthyism all over again. Are we really so weak that a few hundred thousand poor people can take over our country by force?

9/30/2011 7:44:53 AM
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