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What bullshit is this?! I haven't seen ANY of the protesters making any demands even remotely like this!
10/8/2011 3:08:33 AM
If it's genuine then the dude is a complete nutjob, but I'm inclined to think it's a right wing poe.
The rhetoric from the left usually goes against big corporations, shady billionaires and unregulated anarchistic free markets, not capitalism and certainly not Christians. Heck, a large part of the occupy wall street people are Christians.
"They want to ban all guns and destroy Christianity". This sort of rhetoric is usually what you hear from the right wing when they ramble on about how the left wants to destroy America.
10/8/2011 3:15:05 AM
Huurrrrr, I'll impersonate the opposite side and be sooooo subtle about it durrrrrrr.
10/8/2011 3:28:20 AM
"Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands."
edit : in fact, it isn't even included with the thirteen other demands on top of the page. These are quite reasonable, although I don't necessarily agree with all of them.
10/8/2011 3:31:39 AM
Banning all firearms in America (or any country) apart from police and military actually seems like a good idea to me.
...However, everything else in the list seems a bit... excessive, much?
10/8/2011 3:46:16 AM
There is no demand 14!
10/8/2011 3:47:24 AM
If you're real, then you're completely bugfuck insane.
However, since your rant reads like a right-wing zealot's strawman version of liberal thought, I'm inclined to believe it's a reverse Poe, in which case, piss up a rope.
10/8/2011 3:52:28 AM
That's the proposed demands list, which sounds like something a 14 year old would demand after a few days of reading Rational Wiki(no offence).
Not really fundie, but the moonbattery is through the roof
10/8/2011 3:56:41 AM
"Loyalty proven police and military"? Loyal to what?
10/8/2011 4:20:56 AM
Percy Q. Shunn
Demand Fifteen: A football helmet filled with mayonaise, pictures of Bea Arthur - nude, and a bag of barbershop floor sweepings.
10/8/2011 4:23:41 AM
Not fundie, and sounds more like a false-flag post, but it's a beefed-up fundie-nightmare version of rather sensible measures.
10/8/2011 4:33:22 AM
""Banning all firearms in America (or any country) apart from police and military actually seems like a good idea to me"
Me too, though I don't agree how the poster wants to go about doing it.
10/8/2011 4:39:14 AM
I call Poe. Most of this quote do sound "legit" (i.e legitimately nuts) to me, but the whole "get the capitalists and Christians to do our will" thing kind of gives it away.
It's interesting to see how the answers to this comment can be divided into two categories. Right-wing assholes who claim this probable troll is representative of the evil libruls, and the rest, including I suppose said evil libruls, who happen to univocally condemn henrybowman's views.
Also, I laughed at this :
Wow, another completely ignorant of the TRUE facts about gun owners and the history of countries that have done exactly what you propose. What do you think would really happen if all of a sudden the only people with guns were the police and government? (Wait, they're one in the same).
First, kiss any right good bye that you feel you are owed. Second, don't speak your mind about the unethical/illegal actions of your government or you will disappear. Third, don't count on the police or government to make it to your house in time to stop your wife and daughters from possibly being raped and then shot to death by that criminal who figures "WTF, I'll end up in prison for life anyways, might as well enjoy myself with my gun that YOU DON'T HAVE!"
And on and on and on. Look up the statistics on actual gun fatalities and crimes. Look at who ACTUALLY pulls most of these incidents off. Are they legitimate gun owners? In fact, what you and those like you always want to overlook, they are not. Those people are truly CRIMINALS! Wow, what a concept. So let's just disarm the innocent and allow them to be even more defenseless. Cool. Well thought out plan. Ignorance is bliss until you need that f'ing gun.
Didn't you know that every Western country besides the United States is some degree of dystopian police state where violent crime runs rampant? GO AMERICA!
10/8/2011 5:11:25 AM
What would be the reverse of a Poe?
Although, predictably, when a right-wing authoritarian tries to impersonate a left leaning individual, they more often than not get a caricature that rings false. That's my feeling on this one.
Either that or a nut job.
10/8/2011 5:25:26 AM
Oh, interesting, a communist fundie. I don't think we've gotten any of those yet. Way to make all the Occupy Wall Street protesters look bad, Mr. Bowman. I'm sure the fundies will use your statements as "proof" that liberals want to take away God and guns. Ayayay, if there were ever a time to say, "Stop helping us." ...
10/8/2011 5:25:30 AM
let's have fun with logic:
Ban all firearms in America except for loyalty proven police and military
Put any owner of an assault weapon in re-education camps.
yay! the government in re-education camps!!
if someone needs me, i gotta go untwist my brain...
10/8/2011 5:51:10 AM
SHOOT ALL EXTREMISTS!!!1!!1!!!
I'm also inclined to believe this is a right-winger posing as a liberal, mainly because of the inclusion of re-education camps and "getting the capitalists & Christians to do our will." These are two of the biggest fears that paranoid, right wing conservatives have about liberals, while I have yet to hear of any actual liberal talk about wanting to do these things.
10/8/2011 5:59:53 AM
Ban all firearms in America...
Congratulations. You've just killed another long-standing opportunity for parent-child bonding. Fathers taking their sons out hunting has not only been a means for survival during subsitance living, it's a great way to spend quality time together nurturing their relationships. Isn't one of the major problems in America these days that many children don't know their own fathers?
But, nah, there's no value in any of that. Ban all guns now because a small minority cannot use them properly.
10/8/2011 6:22:08 AM
> Put any owner of an assault weapon in re-education camps.
"Re-education camps" only exist in the minds of ultra-right-wing fundies. They fear their opponents will put them in re-education camps, just like Nazis and Soviets. Too bad their opponents have long ago figured out that using Nazi or Soviet techniques is fucking stupid. Nobody just remembered to mention this to the fundienuts because there was an underlying assumption that they would figure that out on their own, too. Guess that didn't happen.
10/8/2011 6:27:49 AM
column a column b
Making firearms illegal will mean only law-breakers will have fire arms.. since they are already breaking the law.. see how that works?
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10/8/2011 6:36:16 AM
If we don't have guns, then what will we do if the 1% decides to get violent?
10/8/2011 6:42:11 AM
What the flying fuck?
10/8/2011 6:45:34 AM
"Paranoia will destroy ya!"
10/8/2011 6:54:17 AM
This must just be a wind up.
10/8/2011 6:57:37 AM
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