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I currently work as a paramedic. When the need arises, I must be able to provide sufficient care to any patient, or be able to refuse patient care if I deem that the area I'm in isn't safe enough. While working a few weeks ago, a lady had fallen, fractured her pelvis, broke a leg, had internal bleeding, and I had to treat her accordingly.

While treating her at her home, I was making small talk with her in an effort to ensure that she felt safe. She eventually laid back and asked if I was a church going person, to which I replied truthfully that I wasn't. This upset her so much, that she refused care from us any longer. She said,"I don't want a dirty athiest to be near me". Legally, if someone without any type of altered mental status refuses care, I cannot provide it. I asked her again, her family, and my medical director in attempts to change her mind, and I informed her of the circumstances. She still refused, so I had to get her to sign the proper documentation and then I left.

Shoot forward two days, and I learned that this woman had died due to internal bleeding, and cardial failure caused by the extraneous bleeding. At this moment, I feel extremely guilty because I was supposed to be caring for her. I didn't think it would be that much of a problem to her, knowing her provider at the moment wasn't a follower of religion. Now, I have to go to court for it. Her husband is attempting to sue(it won't go through since I have all the proper documents and followed proper protocols. Also, the Good Samaritan Laws help)since he thinks I'm the reason she passed.

Seriously? This is one of the reasons I think people shouldn't take on a religious belief. Not only do I have to go to court, but I feel extremely guilty this happened over a trivial matter.

anonymous fundie woman, reddit.com 116 Comments [10/26/2011 3:30:24 AM]
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No doubt God called her up for a quick scolding before eternal bliss.

10/30/2011 5:28:09 AM


My guess is that this is a very old lady who suffers from some mild or worse form of dementia.

10/31/2011 2:21:11 PM


I wish I could say "don't feel guilty" but feelings generally aren't a choice, and when a human being dies, it's natural for any decent person to feel at least a little guilt if it seems like they were even slightly involved. But it really wasn't your fault at all.

It's sad that someone chose to let herself die rather than allow an atheist medic to treat her. But you couldn't do anything against her consent, ultimately the choice was her own.

Don't die for religion. Religion wouldn't die for you.

10/31/2011 2:47:18 PM

How is this fundie? A person obeyed the laws and feels guilty someone died because of their religion, so is against it. I'd call that logic.

11/1/2011 2:26:57 PM


To those of you that say " they should have sent another ambulance," maybe this is a town where they only have one or two? My hometown is such. There are many, many fundies, but only a few ambulances in the county. Also, people on farms and out in the woods sometimes have a long wait for any emergency vehicle. I could see this happening there. She would send the paramedics away, and it would take half an hour to get another one, if they weren't already busy. Bad economy making an excuse to cut down on first responders doesn't help much, either.

11/18/2011 6:49:54 AM


Whoa, Bible analogy here! As when Pontius Pilate washes his hands, saying that the blood of Jesus
will not be on him, and the crowd replies that it will be on them and their descendants. Basically, when the woman and her family signed that paper, they accepted that her blood will be upon them, not you. Look at me, I have read the Bible, now I can throw quotes as ridiculous as a fundie's!

11/28/2011 12:52:39 PM


Call me an asshole if you must, but I'm glad this dumb bitch is dead. Would you extend the same sympathy to a man who refused treatment from "A nigger"?

12/12/2011 12:43:05 AM


The guy on reddit posted an UPDATE after it was all sorted out: The judge dismissed the case.

12/20/2011 10:10:27 AM


Hell.. I'm a pretty religious person myself, but this isn't religion.. this is pure stupidity. Seriously man? If anything you did this world a favor. I understand that your profession requires you to have a healer's hands and mentality so I can understand this whole situation has got to suck for you.. but seriously, you did what you were supposed to do and you covered all your bases.

Save the people worth saving.. this idiot got exactly what she deserved. Maybe it was God's way of bitch slapping the stupid out of her.

1/15/2012 12:47:12 AM


Sympathy and pity are two different things.

1/19/2012 10:38:16 AM


I have seen similar situations including a 'christian' man refusing to let a muslim Dr examine his seriously injured wife, and muslim woman trying to get me to pray before begining CPR on her mother. I didn't, by the way.

6/27/2012 6:25:32 AM

rubber chicken

Wether this particular story is true or not, I can't say but I have heard of similar cases, although not with such tragic consequences.
An individual is perfectly entitled to refuse any and all medical/emergency treatment for any dumb or ridiculous reason they want and there is fuck all you can do about it.
As to the threatened court case, many such cases are begun, especially against those covered by insurance, in the hope that an Out Of Court settlement can be reached. Some insurance companies would rather fork out a couple of thousand in "Go away and shut the fuck up" money rather than pay several hundred thousand in, frequently unrecoverable, legal fees, even for a case that they are almost guaranteed to win.

6/27/2012 8:41:38 AM


*sighs and rolls eyes*

Could these people get any stupider?

2/23/2013 4:26:27 PM


I hope that the man who posted this will read this sooner or later: don't feel bad, her death improved the world.

4/3/2013 7:54:51 AM


There are people who wouldn't accept treatment from Muslims either. Those people, and the woman described here, are idiots of the lowest order. I say, if you're trying to save my life, go right on ahead.

4/14/2013 9:01:19 AM

Dying for your faith is always a waste. Martyrdom is the idiot's way to thinking that they did something worthwhile in life. I just hope she got to find out if she was wrong or not.

4/14/2013 10:08:16 AM

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