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#1344342
Nick O'Teen
Generally, I like Pat, but yeah he's out there on this one.
10/27/2011 9:40:09 AM
#1344343
JohnTheAtheist
Some people are more equal than others says Pat.
10/27/2011 9:45:50 AM
#1344345
Skatepunk
I knew Buchanan was messed up, but I never knew he was THIS bad.
Blacks did NOT enjoy equality at all before the 1960s (maybe a select few in the north, IF they were lucky).
10/27/2011 9:50:18 AM
#1344352
farpadokly
I'm not an American but even I understand that the constitution is not supposed to be a document which is fixed forever but is subject to amendment by subsequent generations, that new legislation can be introduced by democratically elected representatives and voted on.
After all, in 1776 you were a small, agricultural country with a small elite of merchants and lawyers and a bunch of slaves, on the eastern seaboard. Things have changed A LOT since then.
10/27/2011 10:05:58 AM
#1344356
Ormspryde
I very rarely say this, but...WAT.
10/27/2011 10:25:03 AM
#1344371
John
The 14th Amendment was added long after the Founding Fathers were dead and buried. It was not intended to further the concept of equality as envisioned by them. That's why it's called an "amendment". It was added after the Civil War to prevent the Confederate states from using state laws to accomplish what they failed to do by seceding.
10/27/2011 11:33:51 AM
#1344382
Agahnim
Treaty of Tripoli, bitch.
10/27/2011 12:22:47 PM
#1344387
aaa
What the fuck are you smoking?
10/27/2011 12:49:55 PM
#1344396
werewolf
Pat Buchanan means he and his ilk are more equal than anyone else.
10/27/2011 1:14:56 PM
#1344407
TheJebusFire
10/27/2011 1:54:00 PM
#1344423
Old Viking
You must work very, very hard to say something this dumb.
10/27/2011 2:53:13 PM
#1344433
Amadaun
That's...actually kind of true. In that though the founders largely had Enlightenment ideals these sorted oddly with their other standards and less theoretical principles, and nobody did expect actual equality to start with.
The problem here is that you think this means there is something wrong with their ideals being carried to their conclusion.
10/27/2011 4:17:43 PM
#1344443
Nowonmai
Pat, you are so "Animal Farm". All Animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.
10/27/2011 5:31:25 PM
#1344453
Raised by Horses@Osiris
That declaration was just
a little bit tainted when it was first written, though.
Of course, that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to uphold it today.
10/27/2011 7:00:03 PM
#1344456
Hive
Stop wanking about the founders. They were products of their time, just like we are products of ours. People in the future will (hopefully) think it crazy that we didn't let gay people marry for so long, or that we didn't think women being in control of their uteri was a good thing, or that black people were less than white people.
Most of us relize that they were often wrong (cause they were humans), and them being "founders" of a new country doesn't mean that they weren't.
10/27/2011 7:21:38 PM
#1344469
RapturedbyBlondie
Every citizen except the poor, the blacks and the females? Ancient Athens was slightly more progressive than you, at least they weren't racists.
10/27/2011 9:50:53 PM
#1344478
freako104
Did you even GO to a school? Did you ever read a history book?
10/27/2011 11:25:14 PM
#1344569
Alencon
WTF does he suppose "every citizen enjoyed the same constitutional rights and the equal protection of existing laws" means if not social, racial or gender equality?
10/28/2011 7:39:25 AM
#1344660
Xotan
Is he advocating the reimposition of slavery?
10/28/2011 1:09:05 PM
#1344688
tmarcl
Sooo....every citizen enjoying the same rights and equal protection doesn't mean that every citizen enjoys the same rights and equal protection?
10/28/2011 2:29:26 PM
#1344728
Yeah before then they kept using it to push Corporation Personhood.
10/28/2011 5:03:21 PM
#1344729
@Raised by Horses
Yeah and the only reason they even had those shows was because the Hay's code forced them to hide anything bad in the closet so people still truly believe the 50s were uptopian.
10/28/2011 5:05:28 PM
#1344824
If I remember right, the first ammendment was...........freedom OF RELIGION, maybe?
10/29/2011 8:09:34 AM
#1344861
Alleyprowler
Whyyyyy did I have to go read the other quotes?
10/29/2011 11:11:23 AM
#1344885
lisamariefan
I can't get over this asshole's racism under the guise of "tradition."
10/29/2011 2:08:35 PM
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