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Only an imperialist occupies a country under the banner of bringing freedom, then demands to be paid for their service that had not been requested in the first place. And yet your kind denies being imperialistic? And let's not even go into the obviously misdirected racism (which just so happens to be another common facet of imperialism).
10/30/2011 9:34:45 AM
"Getting kicked out of Germany is what it is. The proper way to exit would have been taking reparations equal to the amount of $ spent trying to pacify the impossible. Our soldiers’ blood spilt for a useless cause so now we take what’s owed and the huns can go on eating each other. Shouldn’t you be playing trombones somewhere and sharing a beer and sauerkraut sandwich with an Aryan soldier?"
Please read The Economic Consequences of the Peace by John Maynard Keynes, that is all.
10/30/2011 9:35:56 AM
The most amazing thing about the Iraq war, is how the American people was defrauded and swindled and still, the American morons love the war - what a dumb country!
10/30/2011 9:47:12 AM
Headache: As I'm sure you know, most Americans want OUT of Iraq. It's only hard-core neocons like IslandLifer here that want to stay or pillage. The fact that reality disagrees with your asinine preconceived notions shows that you're as fundy as anyone else quoted here.
10/30/2011 10:01:58 AM
Yeah, they should pay us for taking out their power grid, water, housing, etc.
10/30/2011 10:20:41 AM
You know, I am honestly surprised that this is not from Free Republic. It's certainly vile enough for it. Who knows how much money the liberals in the US have spent trying to do the impossible-- civilize the Bible Belt? It's probably a bigger waste of money than anything we've spent in Iraq, and I say that as someone who thinks Iraq was ultimately pointless.
Also, shouldn't this be under RSTDT? He mentioned (inaccurate) stereotypes and implied that "teh brown peepl" engage in cannibalism. There have been a lot of misclassified quotes recently.
10/30/2011 10:23:18 AM
Interestingly enough, I saw this ad on Craigslist:*
Dictator for life in exotic Middle Eastern country with a long history
Successful candidate will help overthrow a diverse, democratically elected government put in place by the United States and such allies as Honduras, Poland and Moldova (who contributed 24 troops). After revolution this candidate will rule as a ruthless dictator for life or until he pisses us off, acquiesce to U.S. wishes, oppose Iran -- up to and including serving as a base for a U.S. invasion of that country -- clamp down on Muslim clerics and Islam in general, and perform other tasks as necessary.
All the money you and your cronies can scam from the second-largest oil deposits on the planet
Torturing, maiming and killing any and all opposition. Excellent tanning opportunities. Unlimited raping and pillaging. Having all the electricity for air conditioning in your country where the common people are lucky to get a few hours a day.
Qualified applicants should send resume and list of confirmed killings of innocent men, women and children (preferably with video evidence) to:
Case Officer Leonard Z. Smith
C/O CIA Headquarters
P.O. Box 666
Washington, D.C. 78145
* No, really, I was looking for a part-time house cleaner, not a transexual, midget power top who speaks Hungarian.
10/30/2011 10:23:45 AM
Next step is to simply nuke the country when leaving. Don't be shy, go for it !
10/30/2011 10:54:44 AM
Getting kicked out of Iraq is what it is
Hey, it was the far right's beloved Dubya who negotiated and signed the SOFA that "allows" Iraq to kick us out at the end of 2011.
The proper way to exit would have been taking oil equal to the amount of $ spent trying to civilize the impossible.
Yeah. Those damn Iraqi's should pay us for doing something they never asked us to do. Is that what we do now? Invade countries and rob them of their natural resources as payment for an invasion they never asked ffor and likely resent? Are we to be the shining city on a hill, or the bully on the playground?
Our soldiers’ blood spilt for a useless cause so now we take what’s owed and the heathens can go on eating each other.
What's owed? The people who incurred this "debt" are the ones who knowingly fabricated a cause for war and spent US blood and treasure chasing ghosts, and I hardly think that was the people of Iraq.
Shouldn’t you be playing drums somewhere and sharing a tent with a dreadlocked dope dealer? Wash your armpits.
Because everybody who disagrees with you must be an unwashed hippie stoner. Grow the fuck up.
10/30/2011 11:07:43 AM
Just remember, folks: pulling out of Iraq is only wrong when Obama wants to do it.
10/30/2011 11:31:53 AM
At least they're consistent. They always consider pulling out to be a sin.
10/30/2011 11:44:20 AM
hey brendan, not to take the freepers' side on this, but judging by some quotes here, moonbattery is pretty damn vile itself.
just sayin' i'm not that surprised is all.
and to the op: yeah, like massively damaging for years a place and leaving them bitter is a surefire way to cull them into submission... (germany 1920's and 30's)
10/30/2011 12:20:22 PM
I bet ten bucks you voted for the guy that put us there in the first place. Twice.
10/30/2011 12:44:44 PM
When did you first suspect that something wasn't quite right?
10/30/2011 1:07:20 PM
@ Old Viking
I suspect the moment the "darkie" took the oath of office ...
10/30/2011 1:17:10 PM
I don't believe the 'civilizing' impulse was for one moment behind the illegal invasion of Iraq. GWB was obliging those who are in the oil business and repaying, most likely, favours and assistance he received.
You and I pay for all of this at the petrol pump.
10/30/2011 1:27:59 PM
@Zeus Almighty: OK, that's pretty clever. An internet to you.
10/30/2011 1:28:35 PM
Cuz what you got is what we need and all we do is dirty deeds. We're the spaceballs! Watchout-watchout-watchout...
10/30/2011 2:40:24 PM
Getting kicked out of Iraq is what it is. The proper way to exit would have been taking oil equal to the amount of $ spent trying to civilize the impossible. Our soldiers’ blood spilt for a useless cause so now we take what’s owed and the heathens can go on eating each other. Shouldn’t you be playing drums somewhere and sharing a tent with a dreadlocked dope dealer? Wash your armpits.
You can thank dear old Dubya for that one. As for dreadlocks, I didn't realize that Iraq was in the Caribbean.
10/30/2011 5:53:03 PM
if you don't like the US military leaving Iraq, go piss and moan at Bush and Cheney, as their wheelings and dealings set the date of troop withdrawal as law.
10/30/2011 6:12:28 PM
So, it's better that we keep troops over there in harm's way for no good reason?
10/30/2011 6:33:46 PM
taking oil equal to the amount of $ spent
And just what exactly do you think we've been doing over there since mid 2003? This war hasn't cost us one single cent. We're getting all the oil we want on our own conditions. If a correct account balance would be done this war would be showing us a cool profit.
Bush knows it, the Tea Party knows it, Obama knows it. All the soldiers who died over there could only guess about it.
10/30/2011 6:47:14 PM
10/30/2011 8:27:48 PM
Oh, bullshit. The US did NOT get its ass handed to it, not in Iraq and not in Vietnam. That's not the problem at all. That Vietnam was a clusterfuck had absolutely nothing to do with American soldiers getting their asses kicked -- it had everything to do with the fact that the rules of engagement set up by the politicians back home didn't allow for victory. The casualties were stacked very heavily against the Viet Cong -- we're talking 1,100,000 Vietnamese military casualties vs around 58,272 American deaths. The problem with deaths in Vietnam wasn't that American soldiers were being massacred -- it was that they were dying for an immoral cause and committing awful atrocities throughout the country.
Likewise, the amount of deaths that the US has had in Iraq is extremely low given that we're talking about an 8 year campaign -- there have only been a few thousand American deaths vs countless lives lost on the part of the Iraqis. The question has never been whether the US could handle the Iraqi Armed Forces or the various insurgency groups. American troops pretty much slaughter anyone that has come up against them in the country. That IS, in fact, the real problem. When you occupy a country against its will you inevitably wind up resorting to authoritarian methods to maintain control -- bullying and killing innocent civilians, etc.
The problems in Iraq and Vietnam had nothing to do with the fighting prowess of the United States Military. They had everything to do with conflicts where American presence was ill-conceived in the first place as well as the methods used by the American military.
I don't say any of this to defend either conflict. They're both stains on American history. It's just that I get tired of the blind America-bashing. If you're going to point out that the US fucked up on something, that's cool -- but at least get your facts straight. The US is leaving Iraq because it is honoring the will of the government there, not because the US has been somehow "forced to do so" by the Iraqi military. If the US insisted on staying the Iraqi government and its military couldn't do a damn thing about it.
10/30/2011 8:40:42 PM
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