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#5519
Darth Wang
We've proven they exist experimentally with particle colliders, we have devices based on them, etc.
12/1/2005 2:13:50 AM
#5521
PenetratingShaftOfTruthAndSemen
uhhh, theory is the beginning of science?? With that said... i think half of my brain just died after reading this.
12/1/2005 2:34:18 AM
#5535
Kimball Khan
He is not that far off with his last statement, I mean, technically observation is the beginning of science, but if you think about it, we observe without intending science, so the step after that, predicting, is the sort first step into science
12/1/2005 3:30:20 AM
#5558
Crosis
You know, this is actually pretty accurate as far as it goes. As usual, though, it stops a bit short - we've been able to predict certain results that depend on the existence of electrons. The same is true of evolution - we see genetic drift, we see antibiotic-resistant bacteria, etc. It is, most emphatically, NOT true of intelligent design - it makes no predictions that we can verify experimentally.
12/1/2005 6:11:32 AM
#5656
Rime
Darth: although we do know about the parts of the atom and their behaviors, there are some variables we haven't figured out yet. The atom is still a theory, but it is one that works well based on our knowledge so far. And it has changed a lot even since the 50's. Then again, so has evolution.
Well, said Crosis. I don't know why it's so difficult for creationists to just shrug and keep believing in creationism (and according to CBS, they do).
Really, I don't mind having discussions with my wife about evolution and creationism. Nobody's won, but we're not having an annullment drawn up. I'd swear that half of the guests of honor that wind up on this site would have never considered dating someone if they knew they were an evo.
12/2/2005 1:13:58 AM
#1180946
What'd I Do
This isn't really all that fundie, but the last sentence bugs me: Theory isn't the begin[n]ing of science - theory is the result of science.
7/15/2010 5:06:04 PM
#1181008
punch
Tell that to Benjamin Franklin.
7/15/2010 7:25:31 PM
#1181088
Swede
Seeing something is not the deciding factor on how something works. DNA has "worked" for millions of years, but we have not been able to see it until quite recently.
I learned about electricity in school, in physics class. I learned about evolution also, in biology class.
Nope, an idea is the beginning of science, then comes the hypothesis, and if everything "works" like it's predicted to, you then have a theory.
A theory is the goal of science. But beyond that goal there are more goals; it's very much like a relay race, actually.
7/16/2010 3:37:31 AM
#1306437
Quantum Mechanic
Stop using electricity!
7/4/2011 12:27:32 PM
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