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A question was asked of me that I was unable to answer and I am wondering if someone on here can help me. I was talking to someone close to me, of prophecy in the bible and how historically, nations who have sheltered the Jews have thrived, but those nations who have abused them suffered eventually. As an example, the British were supposed to protect the interests of the Jews in palestine when setting up their homeland, but sold out most of the land for oil, so that now, the Jews only hold a tiny part of what they should have. Consequently, the British empire has gone the way of many in the past. The question I was asked was, if this is so, why is Germany, who nigh on wiped the Jews from the face of the earth, prospering as she does. It would appear Germany lost the war but won the battle. I know God's will, will be done and Gen 12:3 stands as true to day and forever as it always has. It would appear that in times past retribution was fairly quick but Germany does appear to be calling the shots in Europe today.

marchmum, Rapture Ready 54 Comments [11/3/2011 4:27:33 AM]
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Not even God can harm us Germans! We just have too many iron chariots.

11/3/2011 10:39:48 AM


Ooo oooo! I know the answer! Because that's all complete bullshit. That's why.

11/3/2011 10:48:28 AM


*blah blah original quote blah blah*

Okay, so maybe Germany's prosperity means that there's a hole in your original hypothesis.

And there's nothing particularly special about the Jews; they're just people. Sometimes they're the victims of violence, and sometimes they're prosperous - just like everybody else.

11/3/2011 10:59:01 AM


Well, one, you fucking moron, the British Empire had been on the decline since the late 1700's to what it is now.
Two, you dumb fuck, if your idea holds any water, how come the US that blindly supports Israel is turning into a shithole?

11/3/2011 11:00:29 AM


If you want to learn why Britain lost her empire pick up a book on geopolitics. It is entirely understandable and has nothing to do with Britain turning her backs on the jews in palestine, numb nuts.

11/3/2011 11:28:33 AM


"the Jews only hold a tiny part of what they should have."

Who are you to proclaim how much of the middle east the Jews should have?

11/3/2011 12:32:03 PM


It's almost as if a nation's treatment of jews makes no difference at all to their past or future prosperity. Interesting.

11/3/2011 12:55:56 PM


Why don't you go and open a book on economics. I don't mean the kind of economics those trickle-down hacks are yapping about, the kind that actually is used to get shit done with precision and speed.

11/3/2011 1:03:19 PM

= POPE =

Obviously there is something wrong with your premise. I know! Maybe it's the way those nations abused the Jews! Germany The Nazis just gave them a horrible, horrible death. Other countries in the past made them renounce their faith and eat ham. God hates ham! It's so obvious! Beware O ye cold cut-eating nations! Your doom is nigh! ... Give or take as many years as necessary to connect the dots.

Coincidence |= Causality - you moron!

11/3/2011 1:15:54 PM


german efficiency i guess... you can count on those guys to run a tight ship.

as to the bible... less so

11/3/2011 2:09:10 PM


Could it be, then, that your premises are incorrect? Could it be that the Jews are not especially beloved and protected by God? Could it be that the world is more complex than that?

11/3/2011 2:26:20 PM


Well, as was pointed out in the thread, Germany did suffer for some decades, and it was, in part because of their treatment of the Jews. However, it was man-directed, not God directed.

One of the things you'd learn if you studied history is that countries and civilizations rise and fall for a multitude of reasons, none of which seem to have anything to do with your god.

To use one example - in the fourth century CE, the Roman empire embraced Christianity as the official religion. Yet not long (relatively) afterwards, half of the empire collapsed. Why is that? Was your god only partly paying attention? Or were there other reasons?

11/3/2011 2:55:43 PM


I know this guy who had a minor car accident.

It must have to do with the detergent his family uses to wash their clothes. Of course.

Btw, the severity of Germany's defeat in WWII and the intense post-war guilt-ridden soul searching done by a large majority of the population, especially by the first post-war generation, made Germany into a different country. Der Fuehrer would be shocked.

11/3/2011 3:42:21 PM


Thats amazing, its playing out exactly like God does not even exist.

11/3/2011 4:07:46 PM

Old Viking

You startled me. For a moment there I thought you were talking about God's willy.

11/3/2011 4:33:07 PM


Too many commas.

11/3/2011 6:58:25 PM

Big Jilm

That is a shit-ton of stupid right there.

The decline of the British Empire couldn't have had anything to do with, oh...I don't know...two World fucking Wars!

And it wasn't Germany...it was a small faction of German ideologues who took over that were so heinous. I.E. not all Germans are baaad, mmm-kay?

And finally, if gods existed, why in thee fuck would they be nationalistic. I thought that shit was supposed to be a one-on-one relationship or some shit?

11/3/2011 7:13:38 PM


Oh, the original thread is so worth reading - on the 3rd page someone tries to THINK and the mods threaten to ban them for asking a philosophical question about a rock in a hard place! It is crazy! (That and I highly doubt a single one of the RRs wouldn't follow orders to save their arses, no matter what they say online.)

11/3/2011 7:28:32 PM


Because......wait for it........ god doesn't exist.

11/3/2011 9:05:47 PM


Nazi? This is proof that Jews for JESUS own Isreal/.

11/4/2011 2:56:07 AM


Let me say, I support Israel but only for the reason they are our sole ally in the region (and a troublesome at that). That said...

British were supposed to protect the interests of the Jews in palestine when setting up their homeland

Why were the Brits supposed to protect the Jews? It was this act that has caused all the unrest in the region. Kicking out a population from its country and setting up a new Israel out of either a sense of guilt from the way Europe had treated Jews for the last 1500 years or a belief in a fairy-tale book.

the Jews only hold a tiny part of what they should have.

The Jews should not have ANY territory in the region. They were a defeated and dispersed population since the Roman Empire - almost 2,000 years. What "right" do they have for anything?

Where is your righteous indignation on the treatment of the US Native Americans? Do you feel that the US should finally honor all the treaties made and broken with them? Should the US kick out all the non-Native people from say, North & South Dakota? That is a lot more recent - only a few hundred years, not almost 2,000.

But no, the US defeated the NAs and they are not getting their land back - why should anyone worry about the Jews getting theirs?

11/4/2011 3:45:03 AM

why is Germany...prospering as she does

'Cause BMWs are the ultimate driving machine.

11/4/2011 4:43:41 AM


Germany *did* suffer. The country you know as Germany is only about 20 years old. Before that, it was divided into two states, one of which was occupied by Soviet forces. Before that, it was divided into four states, none of which were allowed to govern themselves. Before that, it was held hostage to the whims of an insane dictator. Maybe the reason they're doing so well is because they have nearly a century of bad examples to guard against.

11/4/2011 3:38:46 PM


There reason for that is simple. The Bible is bullshit.

11/4/2011 6:08:17 PM

I don't know, but 1800 years in which the Jews have not even their own homeland and everything went by as usual is more than enough to show you that your theory is bullshit. No wonder you don't find the answer.

11/5/2011 9:44:38 AM

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