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So there is now Usama bin Laden and before there was Osama bin Laden.

They must be two different persons, the Usama bin Laden they got during the raid in Pakistan not being the same man as the OBL who has already died some 8 or 9 years ago.

I find it truly amazing how they come up with these new fabricated things, there is even a "Osama/Usama home video".
What will they be coming up with next? I have no idea.

Do they really think we are that stupid to believe all their crapola?

shipgeek, Prison Planet 31 Comments [11/22/2011 6:36:44 AM]
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Well before there was either Usama or Osama bin Laden, there was ????? ?? ???? ?? ??? ?? ????. Do you see? It's a different alphabet. Sometimes translators have to use their best judgement when it comes to approximating a word from one alphabet to the other.
So to sum up:
1. There is no crapola here.
2. But if they do think you're stupid, you're not exactly going out of your way to prove them wrong.

Edit: For some reason the Arabic letters have been translated into question-marks, slightly undermining my point. Fume.

11/22/2011 7:04:34 AM


U sama is closer to the proper pronunciation
O sama is an anglicization error

11/22/2011 7:18:24 AM

Doubting Thomas

Muammar Gaddafi was overthrown and killed, but Khaddafi and Quaddafi are still out there somewhere.

11/22/2011 7:19:16 AM

Dr. Razark

Some agency kept files in a listing by the first three letters. Someone got ticked off about USAma bin Laden's file, so it got changed to OSAma bin Laden.

(Or so goes one story I've seen. Take it for what it's worth.)

11/22/2011 7:32:03 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Oh God. Not only is this spectacularly out of date, but somebody doesn't know how transliteration works, I see.

11/22/2011 8:47:45 AM


Arabic, motherfucker. Do you speak it? No? Then shut the fuck up.

11/22/2011 9:00:08 AM

Doctor Fishcake

I'm going to make it really really simple for you, since you're a Jonesdroid and your critical thinking is obviously not that great. OK?

ALL Arab names are subject to a degree of variance in their Romanised forms. For example Yusuf, Yousef and Yusef are all interchangable as Arabic versions of Joseph. Usama and Osama? Same deal. Got that?

11/22/2011 9:03:38 AM


"Do they really think we are that stupid to believe all their crapola?"

No, but I'm certain most of us know YOU'RE stupid.

11/22/2011 9:09:39 AM



<sarcasm>There's also a shit-ton of dead Libyan leaders/doubles too, all with slight variations in the spelling!</sarcasm>

11/22/2011 10:18:58 AM

J. James

Ah! I see what you did there

@Doubting Thomas
Damn. You scooped me on that one.

... Yeahhh. One can only hope that these people continue to have a voice, to drive others away from their paranoid retardation.

11/22/2011 10:19:28 AM


Dude, i don't think you understand how translating Arabic script to Latin script works.

11/22/2011 11:29:31 AM

And China has two capital cities, Peking and Beijing! They must think we're daft if they expect us to believe there's only one! And don't get me started on Mumbai!

11/22/2011 11:46:16 AM


Interesting theory. Or it could be that it's just two different ways of spelling the same name.

11/22/2011 12:25:06 PM

Joe Mama

I would think that this is really crazy if it wasn't on Alex Jone's website. This is probably very typical of his listeners, the sane voice of reason and rational thought he is.

11/22/2011 2:59:34 PM


No, but apparently you're gullible enough to believe Alex Jones's crapola.

11/22/2011 4:30:46 PM

Brandy Bogard


11/22/2011 5:18:46 PM


Well, if you watch anime you see this kind of transliteration error all the time.

11/22/2011 8:16:23 PM

Ahhh, this takes me back to one of the many idiotic things the right-wingers came up with during the patriotic ferver shortly after 9/11: They made a big deal of objecting to news organizations using the Usama version of the spelling because Usama starts with "USA".

11/22/2011 11:18:43 PM

Raised by Horses

All together now: "I say Usama and you say Osama.."

11/23/2011 2:49:38 AM

Mr Blur

"I have no idea."

How true.

11/23/2011 7:46:44 AM


Most English dialects don't have a true rounded /u/ sound, so we substituted it for /o/, its closest English equivalent. On the other hand, most other languages do have /u/, so that peculiarity of English wasn't actually taken into account when bin Laden's name was first Romanized. Moving on...

11/24/2011 12:58:20 AM

Comrade Potatovich

The Cold War is actually still going on.The Soviets only deposed some guy named Gorbatchev, but, to this day, the real man, ????????, is pulling the strings from behind the Putin/Medvedev/George Soros facade.We know this to be true.

11/24/2011 9:20:04 AM


Dipshit, do you realize Arabic (and Farsi, and Urdu) use a DIFFERENT ALPHABET from ours? Do you realize that all such names must be transcribed, and that even the most accurate transcriptions will vary from one transcriber to another? If not, you'll soon be asserting that Muammar/ Moammar Ghaddafi/ Khadaffy/Kadafi/ Qaddafi, etc, ad infinitem, ad nauseam, was six or seven different people, and the rest of them are still alive.

11/24/2011 10:36:20 AM

Giardano Bruno

I wish these people could understand that Arabic is a very beautiful language (yes I speak it but not well enough) that is also spoken by Jews and Christians.

Although to be fair the Yemenis who looked after me in Israel do talk a dialect that no one else can understand.

11/24/2011 12:02:18 PM


Transliteration's a bitch.

11/26/2011 11:09:34 AM

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