[Quote begins about 3/4ths of the way down the page. The whole blog post is worth a read, as it's all sparked off by two news stories relating to fundie idiocy - the below quote is merely the icing on the rather unpleasant cake]
When I was in college, (having been raised by hard core leftists) I burned my draft card and gave anti-nuke talks etc. I was immersed in and convinced of the 'moral equivalence' of communism and capitalism. On a whim I went to Europe and went behind the iron curtain. (Yes I am that old) Within a few hours I knew that I had been terribly deceived and that there was no legitimate comparison whatever, on any level, between the 2 systems. I then vowed to read books against everything I thought I knew. I have always been more interested in the truth than in being right.
As the result of 9/11 many people have begun to have the absurd lie of the moral equivalency of Islam and Christianity cleared up. It takes only a few hours of honest unbiased research of Islam to find that it has from it's outset advocated lying, deception, revenge, murder, etc etc. Not only did it's founder teach and practice these things but the history of islam has never seen any significant pause in killing for the specific purpose of their faith. Not only does the Bible specifically condemn deceit, murder etc., but it also warns that any who justify these things or use God to excuse them will be in great peril. It is180 degrees out from Islam. There is a solid logical reason there is never an islamic democrasy. One must be truely ignorant of it's precepts to believe it is anything other than an evil, enslaving, belief system. Futhermore, the only real equivalent christian 'jihad', (the crusades) misguided though they were, were as the direct result of the moslems overunning jerusalem and killing or 'converting' at swordpoint the christians there.
OK, here is the point; As absolutly moronic, uninformed, or deceitful as one must be to utter such things as 'Islam is a pieceful religion' etc. How much vastly more ignorant must one be to suggest there is any equivalence between whichcraft of any shade and christianity. The principles that we refer to as morality are at least given a nod and some even respected by islam. Whereas, all wiccas and their ilk are taught that they are soley and absolutly in charge of what they deem right or wrong *AND* they are activly encouraged to violate every precept of conscience and morality.
John ('Osama made me do it') Walker is a traitor and should be shot or imprisoned, NOT allowed to promote his views or do as he wishes. So too the witches amongst us are not freedom loving folks just doing their thing. They are activly promoting and practising something that has not one single redeeming value and enslaves all that fall under it's influence. Only ignorance or evil would suggest that these people, who are the exact equivalent of John Walker only amongst us, should be free to do whatever they wish.
Mitch in Kentucky, This is True 61 Comments
[11/23/2011 7:08:31 AM]
Fundie Index: 53
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The pitiful spelling alone tells me he never went to college or read the books he claims he read.
He also knows absolutely nothing about Wicca.
This is typical fundiness. If you don't think like me you're a traitor.
11/23/2011 10:37:48 AM
@ Mitch in Kentucky.
You were in college?
Maybe as a visitor, or a janitor's assistant... but you certainly couldn't have passed an entrance exam.
11/23/2011 10:46:13 AM
Triple post!? WTF?
11/23/2011 11:04:01 AM
Very weird double post.
11/23/2011 11:04:59 AM
"BUUURN THE WITCHESSSS!!! BURN THE MOOOSLUMS!! Burn 'em like it's 1699!!"
*aside glance* uhhh, shure, buddy. You go do that.
11/23/2011 11:36:19 AM
"OK, here is the point; As absolutly moronic, uninformed, or deceitful as one must be to utter such things as 'Islam is a pieceful religion' etc. How much vastly more ignorant must one be to suggest there is any equivalence between whichcraft of any shade and christianity."
...I'm sorry, Mitch, what was that point again...?
11/23/2011 12:20:06 PM
Yes. I agree. Islam on the whole is far more morally bankrupt than Christianity is.
That does not in any way excuse the moral bankruptcy of Christianity.
11/23/2011 12:33:32 PM
So you're saying that Islam couldn't possibly be a "pieceful" religion because in your view it's more like a homogenous block of evil?
That's oddly internally consistent for someone of your ilk, ...
11/23/2011 1:16:29 PM
I once peeked behind a muslin curtain. I'll never do that again!
11/23/2011 1:27:58 PM
'hours of honest unbiased research'
I call bullshit.
11/23/2011 1:45:13 PM
obviously you lied when you said you read the koran unbiasly.
the koran condemns lying, murder, revenge, just as much as christianity does.
...unless it is in the name of god or islam, ie: apostasy or attacks from outsiders.
...just like christianity.
the only thing you have shown is that you can make excuses, not that christianity are not alike.
11/23/2011 2:04:41 PM
So, your story is that you were raised with liberal, compassionate, freedom-loving views and then got stupid. Check.
11/23/2011 3:24:38 PM
Your comparison of Xianity and Islam is incorrect. The two religions are much more similar than you think. Not only do they both worship the very same god of Abraham, both of their holy books require death to non-believers.
2Chronicles 15:13 That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
Interestingly enough, the pagans you rant about are not as violent. The Wicca religion says, 'An it harm none, do what ye will." Xians and Muslims are instructed to kill non-believers and pagans are instructed to do no harm. I think Mitch needs to get his head out of his ass.
11/23/2011 3:46:22 PM
Jubba the Mad
This sort of thing really scares me.
11/23/2011 4:02:29 PM
Of course governments run by religion aren't democratic. That's why democracies are secular.
11/23/2011 4:38:28 PM
Your apologetics for your religion fails. Islam and Christianity are similar in many, many ways, and Wicca isn't what you personally think it is.
11/23/2011 4:47:41 PM
"Whereas, all wiccas and their ilk are taught that they are soley and absolutly in charge of what they deem right or wrong *AND* they are activly encouraged to violate every precept of conscience and morality"
(Holds up hand, fingers spread)
Which is the most powerful finger in the universe?
11/23/2011 6:44:11 PM
Atomic Flamethrowing Vagina
I love how he says he was in college because he was "raised by hardcore leftists". WTF is with conservatives being so anti-intelligence and education?
11/23/2011 7:32:35 PM
Yes, your bullshit is slightly less harmful than other people's bullshit.
Mostly because you don't really practice it, which is good.
11/23/2011 7:41:06 PM
Tell me more about your complete lack of research.
11/23/2011 7:59:18 PM
[It takes only a few hours of honest unbiased research of Islam to find that it has from it's outset advocated lying, deception, revenge, murder, etc etc.]
The same could be said for Christianity.
[There is a solid logical reason there is never an islamic democrasy.]
I would expect someone who went to college would know how to spell "democracy."
[Futhermore, the only real equivalent christian 'jihad', (the crusades) misguided though they were, were as the direct result of the moslems overunning jerusalem and killing or 'converting' at swordpoint the christians there.]
What about the National Liberation Front of Tripura, a group of Christians in India who forcefully convert Hindus and kill those who dont?
What about Anders Behring Breivik who bombed downtown Olso, Norway and killed over 70 teens in a nearby youth camp?
What about the Ku Klux Klan?
What about the abortion clinic bombers, Army of God? Or Hutaree? Or the Lord's Resistance Army? Or the Iron Gaurd?
11/23/2011 10:43:01 PM
Those evil hardcore lefties, sending their kids to college.
Well, if the story were true, you'd know how to spell "democrasy" and "pieceful".
11/24/2011 2:43:49 AM
It seems that alot of post think that this is Randy talking. Do yourself a favor and read the entire script.
11/24/2011 4:45:20 AM
(Above name should read 'Anon-e-moose')
Further, re. my previous post:
"How much vastly more ignorant must one be to suggest there is any equivalence between whichcraft of any shade and christianity."
And how ignorant must a fundie like you be to suggest otherwise, when an extreme right-wing organisation who profess to be Fundamentalist Christians like you, which - at the top of their hierarchical structure - is led by what is known as the Grand Wizard.
Like I say:
You & your ilk.
Six of one, half-a-dozen of the other.
Be seeing you. [/"The Prisoner"]
11/24/2011 9:58:57 AM
@ Brendan Rizzo
The worst part about that: doesn't the Koran ENCOURAGE people to seek knowledge? If so, why scientific repression? I sense an alterior motive in every Islamic theocracy.
11/24/2011 9:59:49 AM
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