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[Quote begins about 3/4ths of the way down the page. The whole blog post is worth a read, as it's all sparked off by two news stories relating to fundie idiocy - the below quote is merely the icing on the rather unpleasant cake]

When I was in college, (having been raised by hard core leftists) I burned my draft card and gave anti-nuke talks etc. I was immersed in and convinced of the 'moral equivalence' of communism and capitalism. On a whim I went to Europe and went behind the iron curtain. (Yes I am that old) Within a few hours I knew that I had been terribly deceived and that there was no legitimate comparison whatever, on any level, between the 2 systems. I then vowed to read books against everything I thought I knew. I have always been more interested in the truth than in being right.
As the result of 9/11 many people have begun to have the absurd lie of the moral equivalency of Islam and Christianity cleared up. It takes only a few hours of honest unbiased research of Islam to find that it has from it's outset advocated lying, deception, revenge, murder, etc etc. Not only did it's founder teach and practice these things but the history of islam has never seen any significant pause in killing for the specific purpose of their faith. Not only does the Bible specifically condemn deceit, murder etc., but it also warns that any who justify these things or use God to excuse them will be in great peril. It is180 degrees out from Islam. There is a solid logical reason there is never an islamic democrasy. One must be truely ignorant of it's precepts to believe it is anything other than an evil, enslaving, belief system. Futhermore, the only real equivalent christian 'jihad', (the crusades) misguided though they were, were as the direct result of the moslems overunning jerusalem and killing or 'converting' at swordpoint the christians there.

OK, here is the point; As absolutly moronic, uninformed, or deceitful as one must be to utter such things as 'Islam is a pieceful religion' etc. How much vastly more ignorant must one be to suggest there is any equivalence between whichcraft of any shade and christianity. The principles that we refer to as morality are at least given a nod and some even respected by islam. Whereas, all wiccas and their ilk are taught that they are soley and absolutly in charge of what they deem right or wrong *AND* they are activly encouraged to violate every precept of conscience and morality.

John ('Osama made me do it') Walker is a traitor and should be shot or imprisoned, NOT allowed to promote his views or do as he wishes. So too the witches amongst us are not freedom loving folks just doing their thing. They are activly promoting and practising something that has not one single redeeming value and enslaves all that fall under it's influence. Only ignorance or evil would suggest that these people, who are the exact equivalent of John Walker only amongst us, should be free to do whatever they wish.



Mitch in Kentucky, This is True 61 Comments [11/23/2011 7:08:31 AM]
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Canama

But Islam is a pieceful religion!

Haven't you heard of Sunni and Shi'a?

11/24/2011 12:23:07 PM

WWWWolf

> whichcraft

I don't usually do spelling flames, but...

There was one totally obscure incident in Finnish video game industry history when, in early 1990s, some small company made some awesome game that was going to be published elsewhere in the world, but the non-native-speaking English translators made the cardinal mistake of confusing "which" and "witch". Our great nation was ridiculed that fateful day.

Glad to know the native-speaking folks aren't any better.

Keep on bringing honour to your house.

> wiccas and their ilk are taught that they are soley and absolutly in charge of what they deem right or wrong

Oh yeah, damn all religions which give the adherents any (*gasp*) responsibilities! Oh no!

> *AND* they are activly encouraged to violate every precept of conscience and morality

I take it the words "...unless it harms anyone" are entirely invisible to you. It explains a lot.

11/24/2011 2:14:38 PM

Brendan Rizzo

@ WWWWolf:

Which game was this?

11/24/2011 6:40:33 PM

lisamariefan

Wow. This guy is all over the place. I give him an F for coherency.

11/24/2011 8:59:53 PM

Orion

Of course the fact that Communist countries were worse off had nothing to do with having endured the brunt of WW2 while being vastly poorer to begin with due to only recently emerging from feudal arrangements.

Since emerging from Communism some nations have been better off, some worse. But in the end the difference between those better and those worse off under capitalism and communism has had more to do with how they were run than the two systems merits.

11/24/2011 9:15:40 PM

dionysus

They are activly promoting and practising something that has not one single redeeming value and enslaves all that fall under it's influence. Only ignorance or evil would suggest that these people, who are the exact equivalent of John Walker only amongst us, should be free to do whatever they wish..

Freedom of religion, motherfucker! And how does being Wiccan make anyone equivalent to a terrorist? God, you intolerant zealots just piss me right the fuck off.

11/25/2011 6:29:43 AM

JK

"It takes only a few hours of honest unbiased research of Islam to find that it has from it's outset advocated lying, deception, revenge, murder, etc"

"Not only does the Bible specifically condemn deceit, murder etc"

To paraphrase the Bible...
God: Abraham, kill your son in my name.
Abe: Why?
God: Because I SAID so!
Abe: Okay, if you insist. *is about to do it*
God: WAIT! It was just a test, you passed, no killing today.

God: Hey Noah, I'm gonna flood the world and kill everyone because they keep doing things I don't want them to... but haven't really gotten around to telling them not to do it. Get your family and all the animals in the world onto this boat that's not actually big enough or even physically possible.

Angel: Okay... but what if there's FIVE righteous men in the city? Will you spare the city for their sake?
God: Okay FINE, find five righteous dudes in the city and I'll spare it.
Angel: Great! we alrady found one...
God: Tell him to pack his things, Tonight, everyone dies.
Angel: Wha...? But we haven't had time to check everyone...
God: Don't care, Rocks fall, everybody dies.

11/25/2011 12:23:07 PM

elphada

On a whim you went behind the iron curtain?
BS. You just strolled in looked around decided to leave?
You dare to utter about Islam and pieceful? Perhaps you should read the bible and a dictionary closely. Pot and kettle. Glasshouses and so on.
As a witch I call you out on your buffoonery and staggering ignorance. Your ilk is nothing but comedic relief to me. We are not taught. We observe and learn. You, sir, are a dumbass.

11/25/2011 4:10:41 PM



First, learn to spell. Second, read the Koran, IN ARABIC, as I did. It does, too, forbid lying, murder and so on.............Third, don't make absurd non sequiturs. Communism and Islam don't relate. And admit it, you had no idea what Islam was until 9/12, neither you did about wicca. The last paragraph is so contradictory..............I wonder if you're so old that you suffer from a kind of senile dementia.

11/26/2011 11:00:13 AM

Anon-e-moose

@WWWWolf

"> whichcraft

I don't usually do spelling flames, but..."

Whilst flames don't come out of it's engines, one specific dimensional ship of the Time-Space Administration Bureau (imagine a cross-between Starfleet from the 29th Century, the 'Technomages' - and a benevolent version of Psi Corps in "Babylon 5") in the anime series "Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha/A's/StrikerS" - the Asura:



...is effectively a witch craft. [/smartarse] ~_^

...I'll get my Barrier Jacket. (*takes out Intelligent Device*): 'Set Up!' X3

And as for 'But', three words: Fate Testarossa Harlaown. :9

11/26/2011 1:28:04 PM

yeah

... have you even read the old testament?

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