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In videos and writings that are widely consumed by evangelicals, [Ken Ham] encourages students to ask their science teachers "Were you there?" when they talk about the past. The biology teacher says "Life first appeared on earth about 4 billion years ago," and the student is to ask "Were you there?" The physics teacher says "The universe originated in a Big Bang almost 14 billion years ago" and the students is to ask "Were you there?"

In a recent piece titled "Nine Year Old Challenges Nasa," Ham blogged proudly about "Emma B" who, when told that a NASA moon rock was 3.75 billion years old, asked "Were you there?"

Ken Ham, Emma B., Huffington Post 100 Comments [11/26/2011 3:57:12 AM]
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Were you there when she said that?

11/26/2011 4:04:33 AM


Funny how refreshing the page posts the same comment again.

11/26/2011 4:07:01 AM


Forgive me if this is stating the obvious but -

'God said let there be light'

Were you there?

11/26/2011 4:07:23 AM


"Ham blogged proudly about "Emma B" who, when told that a NASA moon rock was 3.75 billion years old, asked "Were you there?""

How did you know she said that? Were you there?

11/26/2011 4:21:34 AM

Comrade Potatovich

"In a recent piece titled "Nine Year Old Challenges Nasa," Ham blogged proudly about "Emma B" who, when told that a NASA moon rock was 3.75 billion years old, asked "Were you there?"
That's it.I'm disguising myself as some dumb hillbilly kid, going to Ham's "museum" and asking him the same question.Then Imma gloat on some blog about it.

11/26/2011 4:23:23 AM

Only a nine year old would think that was a clever.

11/26/2011 4:27:07 AM


As PZ wrote in response to this, the better question is, "How do you know?"

Turns out there's a pretty good answer to that question.

11/26/2011 4:35:35 AM

Jesus Klingon

Teach a parrot to say "Were you there?" and you have a creationist.

11/26/2011 4:42:02 AM


God created the universe 6000 years ago?

Were you there?

11/26/2011 4:53:52 AM


"God created the heavens and the earth"
Were you there?

"And thus was born from a virgin, Christ the lord"
Were you there?

11/26/2011 5:06:48 AM


It's not surprising Ham would recommend this to children... it's the equivalent of "I know you are but what am I?"

11/26/2011 5:11:07 AM




11/26/2011 5:18:02 AM

Godless heathen

How about "no, but I can back up my statements with plenty of evidence"

On the other hand, that can't be said for creationism so, creationists "were you there?"

Edit, just watched the YouTube clip. OhJohnNo wins an Internet.

11/26/2011 5:59:04 AM


I would answer: "Yes I was but I left my evidence at home so you'll have to simply believe me and not question my authority, like a good mindless religious follower who simply repeats catchphrases without understanding the underlying implications."

That'll show them.

11/26/2011 6:04:44 AM


Great, so you want children to have to choose between obeying their parents and behaving well in class, forcing them to alienate at least one authority figure and putting them in a heap of trouble they don't deserve.

I hate assholes who use children to fight their battles for them, because they're too lazy or cowardly to do that themselves, and of course don't give a shit about what it does to the child.

11/26/2011 6:12:32 AM


Ken Ham, what an excellent role model for children everywhere. Still stuck in the coloring stage of kindergarten, Ken Ham is able to exercise logic consistent of a ewe bleating. With logic like this, the questioning nature of children will be enhanced as soon as the Sunday school teacher says: "Jesus died on the cross for your sins" and a kid says "Were you there?"

11/26/2011 6:14:23 AM


Theres a couple Youtube videos with people being escorted out of his creationist museum for asking questions.

I recommend everyone who goes there for a laugh to view the farce and when done to ask his guides weither they were there. See how much the creationist crowd are willing to stand behind their assertions with something besides blind faith.

11/26/2011 6:21:57 AM


The best part about this is, you can easily turn it back against them.

"How do you know Jesus lived 2000 years ago? Were you there?"

11/26/2011 6:45:08 AM


God created Adam and Eve.
Were you there?
The Earth is merely thousands of years old.
Were you there?
God created the Earth in six days.
Were you there?
A worldwide flood destroyed almost all life on Earth, with a rainbow to follow representing God's covenant.
Were you there?

You're right. That argument does hold water rather nicely.

11/26/2011 6:50:16 AM


"How old is your mommy?"
"How do you know, were you there?"

11/26/2011 6:56:46 AM


So by extension if there is no history unless it happened during your life time the universe can be no more than 9 years old since that is the age of the child. But I'm 56 so how can this be?

11/26/2011 7:07:50 AM

it would be pretty hard to be in moon.

11/26/2011 7:23:32 AM

Comrade Potatovich

Thanks, @Frank, for putting everything into perspective now.Creationism is merely a post-modernist art project meant to prove once and for all that reality is subjective.

11/26/2011 7:26:11 AM


Brainwashing children. How despicable and desperate. You stay classy, Ken.

11/26/2011 7:44:34 AM


Tell me, was Ken Ham there to corroborate the story of Genesis and know that the writer didn't just pull the whole thing out of his ass?

11/26/2011 7:46:21 AM

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