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I was taught evolution in school but one thing they don't teach is that human DNA is coiled in a helix in a CLOCKWISE manner
and all other species of plants/animals have their DNA coiled in a helix in an ANTI-CLOCKWISE manner.

If evolution exists then all of our DNA, human AND animal AND plant DNA would be coiled in an identical direction. It isn't. My sister was studying biochemistry at University at the time told me of this anomaly.

I have never been able to accept evolution since, but I still had to repeat what I'd been taught in biology class to pass my exam.

live2love, RR 68 Comments [11/28/2011 4:10:35 AM]
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agrf

you is a liar

11/28/2011 4:27:58 AM

Raised by Horses

You're right. It's just an illusion, a lie maintained by all scientists working in the field of biology, so they can collect fat research grants paid for with your tax dollars while laughing all the way to the bank.

Or maybe I've got them confused with televangelists.

11/28/2011 4:31:16 AM

Dawn

ANTI-CLOCKWISE? Oh NOES! Plants/animals are all evil..their DNA goes widdershins!

11/28/2011 4:35:38 AM

Mudak

Um... If you look at anything coiled from one side (top or bottom) it'll be clockwise. From the other side, it'll be counterclockwise.

Either you just made that up, or your sister is fucking with you.

11/28/2011 4:44:45 AM

atheist

Bullshit.
You're not even a teacher.
Shame on you.

11/28/2011 4:48:21 AM

whatever

Maybe you looked at the DNA of a left-handed person?

11/28/2011 4:49:56 AM

Meishayuri

If this person is a biologist, I will eat my underwear boiled and with some alfredo sauce.

11/28/2011 4:57:36 AM

gravematter

I think you've mis-spelled your name, "lie2love".

11/28/2011 4:58:19 AM

rallymodeller

Yeah, pulling shit out of your ass does not equal truth.

11/28/2011 5:01:28 AM

Godless heathen

"one thing they don't teach is that human DNA is coiled in a helix in a CLOCKWISE manner"

Because that would be incorrect.

11/28/2011 5:17:36 AM

Percy Q. Shunn


11/28/2011 5:23:30 AM

Agahnim

Wait, I thought RR was made up of American fundies. Why is a user there using the British term anti-clockwise instead of the American equivalent counterclockwise? Not that it matters to me, but American fundies tend to hate anything not like them.

11/28/2011 5:47:00 AM

Mister Spak

" human DNA is coiled in a helix in a CLOCKWISE manner
and all other species of plants/animals have their DNA coiled in a helix in an ANTI-CLOCKWISE manner. "

And somehow, human DNA is 97.5% identical with chimp DNA.

" My sister was studying biochemistry at University at the time told me of this anomaly. "

No, she tried to explain evolution to you, but you couldn't understand a bit of it, and she said your thinking was all screwy, and you got that sentence mixed up with one about DNA.

Or maybe your sister at university is actually in 2nd grade and so far ahead of you in science that you think she's in university.

11/28/2011 5:52:53 AM

Matante

Maybe his sister was actually trying to tell him DNA doesn't coil the way it's usually shown in drawings. (And he heard whatever suited him.) There is one interesting little factoid there:
One of the first picture of a DNA helix published for the public to see was accidentally flipped, and later graphic artists based themselves on it, therefore a large amount of current DNA representations are backward.

11/28/2011 5:57:09 AM

Brendan Rizzo

That is completely false. I'm studying biology right now and never once heard that claim asserted. (And yes, we have gotten to the point in the curriculum about DNA.)

I think, therefore, that this factoid was pulled directly out of your ass.

11/28/2011 6:13:20 AM

Dharmabum

Somebody's science education got coiled anti-truthwise.

11/28/2011 6:16:48 AM

David B.

"If evolution exists then all of our DNA, human AND animal AND plant DNA would be coiled in an identical direction."

So close...

"It isn't."

...and yet so far.

11/28/2011 6:17:27 AM

David B.

DNA can coil either way, and probably does so in every animal and plant on Earth.

The normal representation of DNA, the familiar "double helix", is the so called B-DNA form. It forms a right-handed spiral with a major and minor grove running round it's 'surface'. These grooves, principally the major one, are what allow enzymes to bind to the DNA strand.

There is also a second right-handed form of DNA, called A-DNA. This is more compact than B-DNA and also more hydrophobic, which may mean it has a role in the folding/packing of DNA into chromosomes.

Finally there is Z-DNA, which turns you into an shambling, brain-hungry member of the undead which has a left-handed spiral structure, unlike A- and B-DNA. Z-DNA regions appear to be somehow associated with transcription, and it has been suggested that they allow the DNA strand to unwind a little to promote the binding of a transcriptase.


(From left to right: A-DNA, B-DNA and Z-DNA.)

11/28/2011 6:35:37 AM

D Laurier

"I was taught evolution in school but one thing they don't teach is that human DNA is coiled in a helix in a CLOCKWISE manner
and all other species of plants/animals have their DNA coiled in a helix in an ANTI-CLOCKWISE manner."

Thats because ALL DNA is coiled THE SAME WAY.
And no, you were never taught evolution in school.


11/28/2011 6:37:13 AM

dionysus

Well then, it sounds like your sister has a Nobel Prize in the works as soon as she publishes this amazing discovery that no other biochemist in the world seems to have noticed. Until it gets peer-reviewed and published though it's not science.

11/28/2011 6:37:39 AM

Matante

Brendan: Why in the world would any science curriculum include an issue that has no consequences outside of how kiddie science magasines look? "Pictures of DNA are often drawn backward" is a graphical issue, no more.

11/28/2011 6:45:20 AM

Thinking Allowed

Please people it's counter clockwise, not anti-clockwise.

11/28/2011 6:50:16 AM



Your sister is going to fail biochemistry then, if she hasn't already failed it.

11/28/2011 7:18:16 AM

Doubting Thomas

Typical fundie reasoning. Something is different, therefore humans = created by God!

Doesn't matter if what they're arguing is actually based on facts or not.

11/28/2011 7:18:43 AM

checkmate

I was taught evolution in school but

I was taught that humans can't live without a brain.

Having read the above, I have to reconsider.

11/28/2011 8:27:35 AM
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