"Because, even our president, he want to bring about Shariah law. He celebrated Eid Al-Fitr, which is Ramadan in the White House."
11/29/2011 4:59:46 AM
How can you have Sharia law when Muslims aren't even a sizable minority in the USA?
11/29/2011 5:04:07 AM
"He celebrated Eid ... in the White House. Therefore, he's about to break down Article 6 which is the heart of the Constitution"
Love fundy logic
11/29/2011 5:22:28 AM
Simple minds struggle to grasp how laws restricting a certain thing can result in a globally freer society.
America (and anywhere else too, but I'm not asking OP to look past the borders yet, brain might explode) is freer with slavery illegal than without. And it is also freer with hate crime laws than without.
Certain actions result in taking rights away from others and they rightfully are outlawed.
(and I'm not even going to pay attention to the "thing I don't like = shariah law", it's nonsense and doesn't deserve arguments)
11/29/2011 5:43:42 AM
I'm not quite old enough to remember JFK's presidency, but I hear he got a lot of similar shit ... he was going to sell the USA to the Pope, apparently.
At least Kennedy actually was a Catholic.
11/29/2011 6:24:12 AM
Raised by Horses
"Moose-limb darkie in the White House!" part whos-even-counting-anymore? It must be so much nicer to have a scapegoat for everything instead of having to actually think about the problems that plague one's country.
And the 'law' part of 'Sharia Law' is redundant, just like the 'sauce' part of 'salsa sauce'.
11/29/2011 7:02:01 AM
Some background info on Kamal Saleem, courtesy of Right Wing Watch:
Saleem, who was also prominently featured in The Call: Detroit – where he urged other Muslims to convert to Christianity – and told rally attendees that he is the descended of the “Grand Wazir of Islam.” However, the title is not found anywhere in Islam. While preparing for The Call:Detroit, Saleem said that President Obama planned “to break down Article 6” of the Constitution in order to enforce “Islamic law,” warning “if he breaks this, the Sharia law will be supreme in America.”
An investigation by CNN found that Saleem is one of a handful of “fundamentalist Christians posing as ex-terrorists,” and a Middle East studies professor at the conservative Calvin College said his story “is not verifiable and without it he’s no different from other fundamentalist preachers.” Howard even wrote a review of Saleem’s book, which he called “obsessively, sadistically violent,” highlighting Saleem’s many contradictions in his backstory and his blatant and bizarre misrepresentations of Islam, saying, “Suffice it to say that if the subject were Jews, this book could not have been published.” Howard even points out that Focus on the Family, a former employer of Saleem, even had doubts about Saleem’s conversion story.
Haroon Moghul of Religion Dispatches also points out inconsistencies in his story of working for rival Palestinian secular and Islamist groups simultaneously and his claim that as a Muslim he was “allergic to Jesus,” even though Muslims consider Jesus the Messiah.
Why would CBN News bolster such a clear fabricator?
CNN notes that “Saleem, whose real name is Khodor Shami, worked for Pat Robertson’s Christian Broadcasting Network for sixteen years.”
Though AFAIK Jesus (Issa), while revered in Islam, is not actually regarded as the Messiah.
11/29/2011 7:11:53 AM
This shit again?
11/29/2011 7:19:23 AM
he's about to break down Article 6 which is the heart of the Constitution, which is separation of the church and the government.
Not just wrong, but massively wrong.
The president can't just change the Constitution on a whim, and it's the First Amendment which contains the separation of church & state. All Article 6 states about religion is that there will be no religious test to hold any office.
I'm more worried about the Christian fundies who are trying to tear down the wall of separation of church and state. They're trying to install Christianity in government, not realizing if they do this they're opening the door for state-sponsored Muslim sharia law. Christians are doing more to bring about this thing they're afraid of than the Muslims they accuse.
11/29/2011 7:34:32 AM
So basically, Kamal is YET ANOTHER charlatan who discovered he could milk the money from fundies by telling sensational stories about his life before finding the One True Path.
Also, it amazes me how people get their panties in a twist over the slightest whiff of Sharia Law, yet give a free pass to Quiverfull people who are basically trying to do the same damn thing, only under the banner of Christianity instead of Islam.
11/29/2011 7:54:22 AM
"He celebrated Eid Al-Fitr, which is Ramadan in the White House. Therefore, he's about to break down Article 6 which is the heart of the Constitution, which is separation of the church and the government"
Um....by this "logic", he would also be violating the Constitution by celebrating Christmas...or Easter, etc. Do these people even think before they make their asinine statements?
11/29/2011 8:26:57 AM
More of the fundie word salad. I honestly don't think they know what liberty, pursuit of happiness, and freedom really mean. How do you have a free society that condones and even encourages the persecution of others, or gives some more rights than others? Equality is the only state in which it can exist. Hate crime laws protect people from long practiced bigoted behaviors. If your pursuit of happiness depends upon your ability to create misery in other's lives then you should be locked up, because that is inherent in criminal and anti-social behavior.
11/29/2011 8:50:40 AM
Read the source article, it's pretty interesting.
11/29/2011 11:50:28 AM
You do realize that Article 6 says "...no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.", right?
In other words, you can't bar someone from office because you don't like their religion.
Even if he is a Muslim.
Which he isn't.
11/29/2011 11:53:42 AM
He celebrated Eid Al-Fitr, which is Ramadan in the White House.
As if no former president has ever celebrated any Christian holiday while in office. Oh, wait, all of our presidents have been Christian, and I'm sure most of them at least celebrated Christmas. But since they're Christian, and we're a Christian nation, that's okay.
Obama can celebrate whatever he likes on his own time. Obama forcing his staff to observe his holy days is when there'd start to be trouble, but even that is very far away from the institution of Sharia law (which is egregiously over-used as a scary buzzword for any sign of Muslims having any sort of power in this country).
Not really surprised by this fundie logic: if A then F therefore Q.
11/29/2011 11:53:56 AM
Article 6 which is the heart of the Constitution
Ok, let's first quote Article 6 of the US Constitution:
All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
No separation of church and state there, except the "no religious Test" part.
Maybe Kamal meant the First Amendment:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
He celebrated Eid Al-Fitr, which is Ramadan in the White House.
Even if he did, which must be proven, how does celebrating a day of Ramadan constitute Congress making a law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof?
11/29/2011 12:41:28 PM
Who writes this hysterical fearmongering garbage and does anyone actually believe it?
11/29/2011 3:57:20 PM
Even if he had celebrated Ramadan, which he obviously didn't, how come when Bush celebrated Christmas in the White House it wasn't an encroachment on church-state separation? Funny how you guys are suddenly all for the separation of church and state once a Democrat is in the White House...
11/30/2011 7:22:19 AM
"Sharia law" is just the latest buzzword that right wingers use to scare each other. Back in the 1980's it was all "communist takeover," now that the Soviet Union fell, they had to find a new boogeyman. Ever since 9/11, they've used Muslims as their new target for their hatred, and "sharia law" is the phrase they use to keep that hatred stirred up.
If any of them really believe that sharia will be instituted as national law along side the Constitution, then they obviously failed high school American Government classes. I wish that remedial classes were required for any idiot who writes something like this.
11/30/2011 7:46:31 AM
Deir el Feir, feast of the lamb. Ramadan, fast following the ninth lunar month(if you're fasting, you can't eat lamb or sacrifice it). We haven't seen Obama particularly weak or under nourrished later. Your point?
12/3/2011 11:42:43 AM
Look at the republican message at the moment and see the shariah law THEY wish to impose on us. Then let's talk.
8/26/2012 11:59:22 PM