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Some of u seem to have the idea that a world where everyone ignores the reality of hell will make this world a more better and productive place. While their have been some coincidences involving places with high levels of atheism being less violent, this does not leave out the fact that some places with atheism still have evolved to living immoral guilt free lives. Such as here in America, a good example of what atheism and ignoring hell has led 2 an extreme high rate of male homosexuality. Guys are doing this shit like its cool. Our society seems to have come to where people can live any lifestyle they won't as long as it makes them happy.

I'm not saying that it should be illegal 2 be gay. I'm just saying society needs to take responsibility 2 spiritually train our young boys that having a sexual relationship with a man is wrong. Now I know 100% that if my future baby is a boy, he's gonna like girls. I just feel that I have to take the extra effort 2 spiritually enlighten him about the evils of being sexually involved with another boy. Its already bad enough that I have a gay male cousin. I will have to take the extra effort with raising my son about homosexuality being wrong, because I know that me and his momma are going 2 train him right, I'm just gonna be worried that his mind may get poisoned when he his hanging out away from the house.


So u see my friends, there is proof that atheism and ignoring hell does not mean society will be better because u see what the evils of homosexuality has done so far.

Guest_Yakuza_*, ExChristian.net 64 Comments [12/2/2011 4:05:42 AM]
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Pixie

So what evils has homosexuality done?


12/2/2011 4:15:19 AM



Aww. He thinks there is a 100% chance his boy will be heterosexual. How adorably naive.

12/2/2011 4:20:06 AM

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homosexuality does not work that way, and america does not have an extreme high rate of male homosexuality. thank you

12/2/2011 4:36:09 AM

Wyzard

The reality of hell is your poor grammar. You gonna teach your kid that too?

Now I know 100% that if my future baby is a boy, he's gonna like girls.

Funny, my dad thought the same thing, until I came out. Now, he & my partner get along great, he's treated like another son.

Oh, both mom & dad were Christian growing up, Southern Church of God Holy Rollers. I was "spiritually enlightened" and I am still gay.

In fact, that is what drove me away from your cult.

12/2/2011 4:39:36 AM

Seomah

What's this fixation with -male- homosexuality?

He seems to be ok with female homosexuality...

12/2/2011 4:43:41 AM

checkmate

Our society seems to have come to where people can live any lifestyle they won't [sic!] as long as it makes them happy.

Just imagine! Happy people living unobtrusive life styles. God must be fucking pissed!

Let us bewail our society. People can live any lifestyle they want and they're happy! Oh the horror. O tempora, o mores!

Wait: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Dang those founding fathers!

living immoral guilt free lives.

Does one need to be guilt ridden in order to live a moral life? Hardly.

A guilt free life sounds good to me.

12/2/2011 4:53:49 AM

Matante

What kind of adult writes numbers in the place of words that sound like them??
At least if he sounds like he writes, his son will not take him seriously enough to base his self-esteem on his opinion, so as long as he doesn't try to enforce his beliefs in abusive ways he should be fine.

12/2/2011 5:01:38 AM

From the frozen north, Death cometh

"Some of u seem to have the idea that a world where everyone ignores the reality of hell will make this world a more better and productive place."

Yes, I see how being afraid of eternal torment must lead to a wholesome and law abiding citizen... Or it could just make some people nervous wrecks and needlessly depressed.

"While their have been some coincidences involving places with high levels of atheism being less violent, this does not leave out the fact that some places with atheism still have evolved to living immoral guilt free lives."

"Some coincidences"? "Some"? Are you kidding me? The research show on the matter clearly shows strict correlation with religiosity and crime. No two ways about it. As for the "... immoral guilt free lives", you really are obsessed with pointing fingers and feeling superior to other people, don't you? What is so wrong with being guilty free? Constantly undermining people and repeating how horrible, wrong or sad someone is isn't the best motivator to actually do anything about it.

"I'm not saying that it should be illegal 2 be gay. I'm just saying society needs to take responsibility 2 spiritually train our young boys that having a sexual relationship with a man is wrong."

The first sentence is clearly a new addition in this kind of rhetoric. Gay bashers realize that being gay can't be criminalized anymore, so instead they try to make it a "moral dilemma" something that's inherently wrong, a flaw of character that should be weeded out at young age. Preferably with a healthy doze of threats of hellfire. I say, fuck you! Stop abusing your children!

"So u see my friends, there is proof that atheism and ignoring hell does not mean society will be better because u see what the evils of homosexuality has done so far.

I must have read some other post by mistake, because there was not a single hint of proof about wither of those things or homosexuality being evil.

12/2/2011 5:01:53 AM

Caterina

The minute I see text shorthand in a missive, the post loses any value. Spell your freaking words, you lazy lout.

12/2/2011 5:56:20 AM

Really?

So if your daughter likes girls, that'd be okay, right? Since the only "sin" you mention is male homosexuality. Really, though, the only way to guarantee your kid won't be gay is not have any. Better not risk it.

12/2/2011 6:06:19 AM

Arctic Knight

"Now I know 100% that if my future baby is a boy, he's gonna like girls."

And if your future baby is a girl, what will you do? You don't seem to be to worried about what two women do together, but you are overly obsessed with what two men do together.

12/2/2011 6:10:37 AM

Swede

There is enough hell on Earth, why worry about potential hells after this life?

You ought not to ignore the rules of grammar and spelling.

Sexuality is there from birth, you can't do anything about it. The only thing you can do, by teaching him that it's wrong, is to make his life miserable if he turns out to be gay.

What about lesbianism? Is that OK?

Where's the evidence that more atheists are gay than Christians?
The evils of homophobia have done much more harm than homosexuality.

12/2/2011 6:28:39 AM

Raised by Horses

Begging the question (of Hell), special pleading (high level of atheism has no correlation with less violence. Christianity, on the other hand..), irrelevant conclusion (atheism leads to homosexuality), wisdom of repugnance (homosexuality is an undesirable "lifestyle")...

This guy's darting from one unrelated point to another so fast, I'm having trouble keeping up.

12/2/2011 6:32:52 AM

Pup

Sounds more misinformed than particularly fundy. But then lots of fundies will claim out-right and in the faces of homosexuals who know better than them that it's just about sex rather than attraction...

12/2/2011 6:38:24 AM

dionysus

90% chance that your son turns out straight
10% chance he turns out like Ted Haggard
100% chance that he turns into yet another homophobic bigot who will, hopefully, be in the minority by then just like overt racists.

12/2/2011 6:41:53 AM

tranz2deep

@Matante

Prince does.

Maybe Guest_Yakuza should be shown a bunch of Prince videos.

(Come to think of it, that may be how he got on this Hell kick, you ever seen Batdance?)

12/2/2011 6:49:01 AM

Mister Spak

"Some of u seem to have the idea that a world where everyone ignores the reality of hell will make this world a more better and productive place."

So if hell isn't real we are screwed?

On the other hand, look at what the evils of belief in hell have done so far.

12/2/2011 6:51:17 AM

nutbunny

Having homosex is not wrong.There is no hell. Your god is imaginary. If your god existed, we would have to defy it on principle (the principle of not sucking the cock of a maniacal, eternal 2 year old). It's as if God's folks didn't beat enough common decency into it.

12/2/2011 6:57:13 AM

JSS

{this does not leave out the fact that some places with atheism still have evolved to living immoral guilt free lives.}

Because without hellfire preaching, people won't live under psychological terrorism by freedom-hating fanatics anymore. How horrible.

{I'm just saying society needs to take responsibility 2 spiritually train our young boys that having a sexual relationship with a man is wrong.}

Maybe you should teach them the responsibilty to use 'to' instead of the number 2.

Aside from that, your entire second paragraph reflects a deep misunderstanding on sexual orientation so it's irrelevant. Why teach children ignorance?

{So u see my friends, there is proof that atheism and ignoring hell does not mean society will be better because u see what the evils of homosexuality has done so far.}

Nah, more like proof of your obsession with homosexuality instead of real societal problems. By the way you never mentioned anything about the evils of homosexuality, just the assumption that it within itself was evil. Begone, disgusting troll.

12/2/2011 7:04:35 AM

Argle Bargle

I'm sure you will be a great teacher, with your literacy skills.

12/2/2011 7:13:44 AM



Based on your grammar alone, I hope your kid gets a better education than you did. And it's been quite a while since I've seen so many fallacies in such a short piece of writing.

12/2/2011 7:38:35 AM

CohibaMan

@Caterina

Agreed.

The moment you type "2" because you're too lazy to press the extra key required to type out "to", you automatically forfeit any other right you might have otherwise had to be taken seriously.

12/2/2011 8:11:49 AM

Tina

... He'll type the words 'responsibility' and 'homosexuality' and 'relationship', but the friggin words 'to' and 'you' are too hard??

Oh, I'm sure your hypothetical son will 100% bring home girlfriends, and marry a fine lady. Then cheat on her with strange men because he's too terrified and closeted to ever admit he might be gay, won't practice safe sex with the fellas because he wasn't taught how and will bring diseases home to his wife, then finally divorce her and bring unhappiness to all. Go Christian parenting!

12/2/2011 8:17:00 AM

Anon-e-moose

"reality of hell"

Ahem:



And for someone too immature to use 'to' in your vocabulary, you are in no position to dictate morality to those who are your intellectual superiors.

'Reality'. You fundies keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Now run along and play, child. And come back when you've gained the necessity to shave.

12/2/2011 8:17:46 AM

Phoenix

There's nothing wrong with being gay. My best guy friend is [I'm a girl.]. By the way, your kid is not an animal, so you shouldn't really talk about "training him".

12/2/2011 8:45:38 AM
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