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Some of u seem to have the idea that a world where everyone ignores the reality of hell will make this world a more better and productive place. While their have been some coincidences involving places with high levels of atheism being less violent, this does not leave out the fact that some places with atheism still have evolved to living immoral guilt free lives. Such as here in America, a good example of what atheism and ignoring hell has led 2 an extreme high rate of male homosexuality. Guys are doing this shit like its cool. Our society seems to have come to where people can live any lifestyle they won't as long as it makes them happy.

I'm not saying that it should be illegal 2 be gay. I'm just saying society needs to take responsibility 2 spiritually train our young boys that having a sexual relationship with a man is wrong. Now I know 100% that if my future baby is a boy, he's gonna like girls. I just feel that I have to take the extra effort 2 spiritually enlighten him about the evils of being sexually involved with another boy. Its already bad enough that I have a gay male cousin. I will have to take the extra effort with raising my son about homosexuality being wrong, because I know that me and his momma are going 2 train him right, I'm just gonna be worried that his mind may get poisoned when he his hanging out away from the house.


So u see my friends, there is proof that atheism and ignoring hell does not mean society will be better because u see what the evils of homosexuality has done so far.

Guest_Yakuza_*, ExChristian.net 64 Comments [12/2/2011 4:05:42 AM]
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Raised by Horses

@tranz2deep

Well, Prince is living in Prince World, so at least he's got an excuse. Sort of.

12/2/2011 8:46:46 AM

capello moderno

"blablabla.. can live any lifestyle they won't as long as it makes them happy"

So, as long as it makes them happy, people can live any lifestyle they like, provided that they do not want to? ..intriguing

What evils did homosexuals commit again?


12/2/2011 9:07:42 AM

cdcdrr

Hmmm, it seems there is a correlation between homophobia and poor spelling. We must teach children that only by staying out of homophobic religious cults will they ever learn their ABCs.

12/2/2011 9:11:06 AM



You are mistaken in the belief that your baby biy will 100% like girls. There is a small probability that he will be gay. If he is you wont stop him being gay, you will simply make his life a misery.


p.s the word is to. 2 = two which is wrong in context.

Biblical reference for Hell ?

12/2/2011 9:15:17 AM

N. De Plume

You lost me at “u.”

12/2/2011 9:31:39 AM

Doubting Thomas

Sorry, I just couldn't get past the crappy spelling & grammar here. Go back to fucking school and learn how to write some fucking English! I can't believe that Rick Perry thinks that eliminating the Department of Education is a good idea when this is an example of what our schools are turning out.

That being said, people aren't going to choose to be gay because they think it's cool, and there's no guarantee your son will be straight. You either are or you aren't.

12/2/2011 10:17:20 AM

Murdin

I'm not entirely convinced this is fundie, to be honest. It's actually a pretty good example of how most people in the world approach those ethical questions. Such considerations as "harm" or "freedom" are only coincidental to the concept of religious morality. If this is fundie, then the very concept of religion is.

12/2/2011 11:01:59 AM

Berny

- Hell is a myth.
- People don't choose their sexual orientation.
- There is nothing immoral about being gay.
- If your boy is gay, no amount of bullying on your part will change that. It will simply make your boy miserable and destroy any semblance of a relationship you might have with him. Ditto for a daughter.
- Homosexuality is only evil to fundamentalist morons like yourself who judge everything based on a two-to-three-thousand-year-old book of fairy tales.

12/2/2011 11:07:10 AM

Zagen30

Some of u seem to have the idea that a world where everyone ignores the reality of hell will make this world a more better and productive place.

Not living in fear of divine retribution would certainly be better on people's psyches. Scientists not being afraid that their research will anger God and condemn them from eternity would probably make the world a more productive place, though I certainly don't believe that a religious scientist is necessarily a worse scientist. A fundie scientist most likely is (in certain fields).

While their have been some coincidences involving places with high levels of atheism being less violent

At some point correlation stops being coincidence and does imply causation.

this does not leave out the fact that some places with atheism still have evolved to living immoral guilt free lives.

That doesn't even follow from the first half. They don't share your morality, and in fact probably share a morality that's based on what actual living people feel is proper and just, not what some guys decided thousands of years ago.

Such as here in America, a good example of what atheism and ignoring hell has led 2 an extreme high rate of male homosexuality.

[Citation needed] There are plenty of religious gay people, and the rate is not out of line with the rest of the world (nor most other animal populations, for that matter). The reason homosexuality doesn't seem that high in certain countries is because it's not tolerated and thus people stay in the closet, not because homosexuality doesn't exist there. It's not a choice, and atheism does not espouse it.

12/2/2011 11:33:53 AM

Zagen30

Guys are doing this shit like its cool.

Girls are also doing it too, you know. But they don't count because girl on girl is hot, right?

Anyway, most people don't do it for the status, they do it because that's how they're wired. I won't deny that some people may try it in an experimental phases of their lives, but I highly doubt anyone maintains a gay relationship long-term if they're not at least somewhat bisexual. There's certainly no societal pressure to be gay, unlike many of those closeted gays who feel pressured into getting married to a woman to fit in.

I'm not saying that it should be illegal 2 be gay.

The first halfway-reasonable thing you've said so far.

I'm just saying society needs to take responsibility 2 spiritually train our young boys that having a sexual relationship with a man is wrong.

And you blew it. So it's okay if we exert extreme pressure to conform, as long as it's not an official law? What do you do with the people who don't conform? And once again, why are lesbians not included in this?

Now I know 100% that if my future baby is a boy, he's gonna like girls.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH that's a good one. I'm not sure if I'd wish a gay son on you just to prove you so very, very wrong or never want you to have kids because of the way you'd raise them.

I just feel that I have to take the extra effort 2 spiritually enlighten him about the evils of being sexually involved with another boy.

What evil is that? What tangible malevolent effect have gays ever produced? And don't throw out AIDS, because while it may have spread early on in the gay community, it's by no means a gay disease.

12/2/2011 11:34:45 AM

Zagen30

Its already bad enough that I have a gay male cousin.

Besides his choice of sexual partner, do you actually find something wrong with him? If you can actually name something, would those qualities be any less likely to appear in a straight person? Would you be as judgmental of those qualities if your cousin were straight?

I will have to take the extra effort with raising my son about homosexuality being wrong, because I know that me and his momma are going 2 train him right

I think I don't want you having any kids.

I'm just gonna be worried that his mind may get poisoned when he his hanging out away from the house.

It's always those with something to hide who want to keep their charges in the dark. Like, for instance, gay people are normal and not morally bankrupt.

So u see my friends, there is proof that atheism and ignoring hell does not mean society will be better because u see what the evils of homosexuality has done so far.

I fail to see any proof. You didn't mention any of these "evils of homosexuality" nor what they've done that's so bad. Most of it was a personal rant about how you're going to raise your child.

12/2/2011 11:35:33 AM

Joe Mama

I'm just gonna be worried that his mind may get poisoned when he his hanging out away from the house.

By all means never let him leave the house! Homeschool him, don't have a TV, don't let him use the internet ('cuz gays hang out on the internet trying to snag young boyflesh), and make him live in your basement until he's 35. Even if he claims that he likes women, there's no telling when an evil gay will use their special gay powers to seduce him and make him catch the gay.

12/2/2011 12:17:38 PM

DarkfireTaimatsu

Now I know 100% that if my future baby is a boy, he's gonna like girls.

"...And if it's a girl and likes girls, that's just hot."

12/2/2011 12:36:24 PM

Old Viking

A sequence of barely comprehensible, disjoined comments and an assault on logic.

12/2/2011 12:41:16 PM

Agahnim

Reality of hell? Is that like the reality of the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

12/2/2011 3:05:33 PM

John

Here's a flash:

(1) Heterosexual men don't have gay sex because it's "cool".

(2) There probably aren't proportionately any more gays today than there were 1,000 years ago.

(3) No one has ever found that someone is less likely to be gay simply because they're "trained right" by homophobic parents or told about the evils of homosexuality. A gay person can't be talked into being straight any more than a straight person can be talked into being gay (see 1). Professional psychiatrists gave up trying decades ago, so some amateur parent isn't likely to succeed, either. On the other hand, if your kid is gay, you can probably make him/her more likely to commit suicide, if that's what you want.

12/2/2011 3:07:47 PM

Reynardine

If that boy's mind gets poisoned, it's going to be from Daddy's constant prurient harping.

12/2/2011 3:38:06 PM

aaa

I don't think you are helping your argument at all.

12/2/2011 4:31:13 PM

Meishayuri

Ah the evils of homosexuality. Loving someone is so evil, so dark and so terrible that there is happiness going on outside the influence of the great Christian church was has preached more hatred and done more evil needs than any gay or lesbian could have ever done.

12/2/2011 5:54:48 PM

whoanelly

Actually type out the word "to". Then get back to me.

12/2/2011 6:45:22 PM

Javascap

I stopped reading at "u".

12/2/2011 8:47:38 PM

TheJebusFire

Now I know 100% that if my future baby is a boy, he's gonna like girls. I just feel that I have to take the extra effort 2 spiritually enlighten him about the evils of being sexually involved with another boy.

You cannot teach your boy to be hetrosexual. Your prefrences are determined by chemicals in your brain.

I will have to take the extra effort with raising my son about homosexuality being wrong, because I know that me and his momma are going 2 train him right, I'm just gonna be worried that his mind may get poisoned when he his hanging out away from the house.

If you're too lazy to type out your words, then you're too lazy to be a parent.

12/2/2011 9:24:19 PM

Entertainer13

I found myself ignoring the entirety of the text once I noticed they used the improper form of "there". Is that sad?

12/2/2011 9:48:56 PM

WWWWolf

> I'm not saying that it should be illegal 2 be gay.

Let me guess, you're only saying that people shouldn't be jailed for being gay, and that people who bash gays shouldn't be jailed either? The farther away you keep the police, the better - no need for the authorities to get involved in a little bit of righteous sodomite-smiting?

> I'm just saying society needs to take responsibility 2 spiritually train our young boys that having a sexual relationship with a man is wrong

Hey, I wasn't far off!

12/3/2011 5:15:52 AM

Jessica

I think this is sad in it's naivety. This chap seems to honestly believe that teaching his (as yet unborn) son to love and obey God will sort of inoculate him against being gay.
I really don't know whether I hope that, after all that 'spiritual training', teaching him to love God and of the reality of hell his son turns out to be gay and after years trying to force himself in the straight mode has to be true to himself, breaks free and his parents lose their son for good. I suppose they'll blame him getting the 'gay virus' on hanging around with people outside their control.
I suppose it's good of him to acknowledge that gay men do exist, unlike lesbians which he never mentions as as consequence of raising a little girl as an atheist who doesn't believe in hell.

12/3/2011 9:00:44 AM
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