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The power to debate, convince, communicate, cajole, move others, influence friends and enemies...is a powerful thing. Note your current president, who sits in that chair today due far more to his ability to do those things, than his ability to lead effectively. You might even think of Hitler in this same regard, who at least and in addition, could lead.

Atheists have no God, no ears to hear, no eyes to see, no heart to touch, no normally functioning intellect, in fact, are obviously flawed abberations, mutants, actual true zombies, and should be seen as objects of abject pity, rather than targets of debate. They are living nothings...but could be seen as walking opportunities on which to practice your skills of rhetoric, debate and command of the language.

On the other hand, heretics, sectists and cultists, catholics and baptists and other religious types obviously have at least a tacit or latent acknowledgement of a god of some sort, and are generally much more accepting of correction, rebuke, direction, exhortation and a good dose of truth, at least, ever now and again.

I have no need of practice, and thus, have no truck with atheists. But with religious folks, there is at least the possibility of profitable debate, discussion, even argument[.]

Parson Julabee Jones, Survivalist Boards 84 Comments [12/9/2011 4:36:07 AM]
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Iel

@Headache

Holy crap! Warn a girl, will ya?


@Parson Julabee Jones

Not an atheist, but, dude, my first boyfriend was (and still is) an atheist. He's most definitely got eyes -- to see the reality of this life. Same for his ears and his heart. Whether or not he believes in a higher power was irrelevant to the two years we spent together, and I'd have noticed if he were a zombie, dear.

12/9/2011 12:55:02 PM

Canuovea

Sounds like St. Augustine, who spouted more word salad than most fundies I've seen.

"The devil was sinning from the beginning doesn't mean the beginning of his existence! It means the beginning of when he was sinning!"

But Augustine said something similar. He said "Pfft. At least those other heretics who think the devil was evil but still think of God as the creator and only prime power are better than those dualist Manichean bastards!"

So he is following a grand tradition in Christianity.

Also, the notion of Grace kinda comes up. You can only know God if God lets you, similar to Augustinian predestination... something Augustine came up with, obviously.

Yeah, its hate on Augustine day today. That was the guy who got Pelagius exiled over the doctrine of Free Will and who came up with, what several Christians of the time like Julian thought was ridiculous but has managed to stick, the Doctrine of Original Sin.

At least Thomas Aquinas wasn't an idiot.

12/9/2011 1:00:04 PM

checkmate

Atheists ... are living nothings ... I ... no truck with atheists.

Hmm, I wonder if Parson Julabee Jones has ever heard of the Parable of the Prodigal Son.

You know, the one that's in the Bible. The one Jesus told us.

Perhaps Parson Julabee Jones should read the Bible some time. Even if it's not divine, one can still learn a lot from it. Jesus wasn't all that bad. He just wasn't God. It's his followers who are the shit cases.

Reading the Bible just might do some things for Parson Julabee Jones. Perhaps we should send him a copy. He obviously doesn't have one.

12/9/2011 1:16:36 PM

Shadoboy

Yeah, keep telling yourself that to avoid getting the atheists beat you in debates.

12/9/2011 1:29:02 PM

Old Viking

The parson's debating technique consists of prefacing every statement with, "The Bible says ..."

12/9/2011 2:12:48 PM

= POPE =

"I have no need of practice, and thus, have no truck with atheists."

Are you 140 years old, or is Tom Sawyer the only book you've read beside the Bible? Land sakes!

12/9/2011 2:21:46 PM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

"...But with religious folks, there is at least the possibility of profitable debate, discussion, even argument."

With emphasis on profitable: tithes > 10%.

12/9/2011 2:30:57 PM

Wehpudicabok

NIGHT OF THE LIVING ATHEISTS!!!!

Seriously, though, you need help.

12/9/2011 2:39:40 PM

Sasha

"Julabee"? Seriously?

12/9/2011 2:56:35 PM

checkmate

Well, three seconds of googling show that our beloved (Parson) Julabee Jones is a total 2nd Amendment gun freak. His posts on opencarry.org speak for themselves.

Why are so many American fundie christians so crazy about guns? Somehow I can't imagine Jesus "packing a rod".

12/9/2011 4:08:23 PM

Osiris

Because 2nd Amendment > 6th Commandment.

12/9/2011 4:31:54 PM

John

The power to debate, convince, communicate, cajole, move others, influence friends and enemies...is a powerful thing.

What is the difference between that and leadership, other than the fact that you personally disagree with what Obama is trying to "debate, convince, communicate, cajole, move others, influence friends and enemies" and personally agree with Hitler?

12/9/2011 5:45:38 PM

Mystical Chicken is on her Wii and doesn't feel like logging in

Ugh. I am REALLY starting to dislike the phrase "have no truck with". I can't even really articulate why.

12/9/2011 6:19:07 PM

whoanelly

The hell? I'm most definitely not a zombie. But still...shiny mirror, someone owes me a new irony meter, etc., etc.

12/9/2011 7:18:30 PM

Nerikull

"BRAAAINNNS..."

*knocks on Parson's head, shrugs, and shuffles along*

"BRAAAINNNS..."

'nuff said. Another mook that thinks anyone that doesn't believe in G/gods isn't as good as they are. Peh...

12/9/2011 8:20:02 PM

Alencon

Wow, cool. I've always wanted to be a flawed, abberation, mutant zombie! I'm so proud.

12/9/2011 8:39:06 PM

truthinScience

In summary, "I can't win an argument with an atheist so I ignore them and pretend they're stupid, not me."

@Alencon — Having a rare genetic mutation, I at least have the mutant part down. I guess that's a plus.

12/9/2011 8:54:37 PM

Jasper Spotty-Butt

Parson Julabee, there's a man who knows that neither he nor his fellow whacky cultists have any chance at all of convincing an atheist to believe in God. Not even the slightest of chances. What to do? What to do? Yes, of course. Since atheists find us completely unconvincing, they are are a danger to our cults, and might influence the gullible to rebel against our lunacy. Therefore let us denigrate them and even reduce them to nothing. Good plan Julabee. Look how dangerous "nothings" are to your so-called mighty God!

12/9/2011 9:35:37 PM

TheJebusFire

Aww, did those big bad atheist keep proving you wrong?

12/9/2011 10:22:04 PM

moose

New film:
Night of the living atheist.....
It will be a cult classic .....pun intended.

12/9/2011 10:52:38 PM

louislois

Rather quick to jump on the Godwin's Law, there...

12/9/2011 11:33:58 PM

Justanotheratheist

So you'd only debate with those who already have at least a similar point of view to your own?

Thank fuck you're not a lawyer.

12/10/2011 12:41:00 AM

J. James

Survivalists. Ugh. The only one I'll ever respect is Burt Gummer, and he isn't even real. Those guys are fear-driven pseudo-badass poseurs that cling to their guns and unempathetic apocalypse-fantasies in a desperate attempt to convince themselves that they don't fucking suck on every conceivable level.

At best, they're annoying as fuck and a complete waste of resources.

At worst, they're babbling Confederate lunatics that for unfathomable reasons are allowed to pose a danger to everything around them with assault rifles and homemade explosives. In short, latent terrorists. Except even less competent. And less likeable.

12/10/2011 1:01:56 AM

Brianisha

All I got from your blah de blah christians are superior rant was this:
Atheists believe in no god, and are impossible to control, whereas Christians believe in a god, and can be persuaded
to do acts as vile as Hitler;s

Did I miss anything there?

12/10/2011 4:46:08 AM



Are you trying to tell us that you can't debate?. No wonder you want to "survive"

12/10/2011 4:51:22 AM
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