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The Learning Channel's new show All-American Muslim is propaganda clearly designed to counter legitimate and present-day concerns about many Muslims who are advancing Islamic fundamentalism and Sharia law. The show profiles only Muslims that appear to be ordinary folks while excluding many Islamic believers whose agenda poses a clear and present danger to liberties and traditional values that the majority of Americans cherish.

One of the most troubling scenes occurred at the introduction of the program when a Muslim police officer stated "I really am American. No ifs and or buts about it." [...]

The first two episodes start off with Muslim youth complaining about non-Muslim Americans’ perception of them as extremists after 911. The show then reports on these youths’ daily, weekly and monthly prayer rituals. Many Imams who are at the head of these prayer rituals believe strongly in Islam and Sharia law. This TLC show clearly failed to connect the dots on this point but then again that appears to be their intent. [...]

Clearly this program is attempting to manipulate Americans into ignoring the threat of jihad and to influence them to believe that being concerned about the jihad threat would somehow victimize these nice people in this show. [...]

Florida Family, Florida Family 73 Comments [12/13/2011 4:35:35 AM]
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freako104

Or show not all Muslims are fundamentalists and normal people.

12/13/2011 4:37:23 AM

Mudak

Take out the phrase "legitimate and present day concerns" and replace it with "prejudices" and the first sentence is by and large correct.

And Christian fundamentalism is at least as dangerous as Muslim fundamentalism.

12/13/2011 4:47:19 AM

Matante

Oh, you are sooooooooo right!
And when any show is made about christian traditions and people, they should focus on groups like the WBC, the Quiverful movement, thugs that beat up gays and doctors, and creepy pedophile priests. You wouldn't want viewers to forget that those nice, normal Americans are associated with THAT would you?

12/13/2011 5:15:56 AM

Nerikull

Wow, a bit of pot-kettle-black, hmm? A group of "Christian" fundamentalists complaining that a show about American Muslims doesn't show only "Muslim" fundamentalists.

The mirror doesn't go one-way in this case.

"One of the most troubling scenes occurred at the introduction of the program when a Muslim police officer stated 'I really am American. No ifs and or buts about it.' "

Troubling? Because a police officer who happens to be a Muslim states that he's an American first?

"Many Imams who are at the head of these prayer rituals believe strongly in Islam and Sharia law. This TLC show clearly failed to connect the dots on this point but then again that appears to be their intent."

*eyeroll* And this is any different from the rule of law most Christian fundies want for America? It's been said before: pot-kettle-black.


12/13/2011 5:16:03 AM

Argle Bargle

"TLC is defusing our hateful propaganda! That means that they're in cahoots with the radicals! I'm a loud, ignorant bigot! Ableblelblebleh!"

12/13/2011 5:19:28 AM

Fpqxz

I heard about this through allgov.com (an excellent news website, by the way), and was thoroughly disgusted.

This is how these people think...any sort of tolerance or pluralism annoys them.

12/13/2011 5:21:57 AM



Or or, think of this, maybe the show is trying to show that most of what you think is fabricated hate mongering nonsense.

12/13/2011 5:25:57 AM

David B.

"propaganda clearly designed to counter legitimate and present-day concerns about many Muslims who are advancing Islamic fundamentalism and Sharia law."

Says a group that wants to exclude gays from "freedom and liberty for all", i.e. who attacked Disney, the USF and Nickelodean for "promoting homosexuality", all on biblical grounds.

"The show profiles only Muslims that appear to be ordinary folks while excluding many Islamic believers whose agenda poses a clear and present danger to liberties and traditional values that the majority of Americans cherish."

A bit like ignoring the dominionists when discussing American Christianity, eh?

"One of the most troubling scenes occurred at the introduction of the program when a Muslim police officer stated "I really am American. No ifs and or buts about it.""

Troubling, no doubt, because it is true, but does not sit well with your prior bias.

12/13/2011 5:31:18 AM

Bollox

Ah, 'Family'. A much abused word. I wonder what they think it means?

12/13/2011 5:35:38 AM

Godless heathen

Totally. They should show that Christians are all IRA terrorists as well.

12/13/2011 5:44:13 AM

Bollox

Now, now Godless heathen, you should know by now that Catholics aren't Christian. Which takes care of ETA, as well.

12/13/2011 5:49:52 AM

TGRwulf

Yes, because showing that all the "muzzies" are not inherently evil is such an EVIL concept!

Or it could just be that you're an intolerant bigot.

12/13/2011 6:06:10 AM

julian

I'm just trying to figure out how these people seem to know what is in the hearts and minds of muslims/gays/atheists.

It's as if they have some sort of magical ability... if that's the case, can we burn them as witches?

12/13/2011 6:16:57 AM

Robespierre

Most religions, if taken seriously, are incompatible with democracy and modern civilization.
Luckily, most people are hypocrites, and so are muslims.

12/13/2011 6:19:32 AM

Alencon

Imams that believe strongly in Islam. What a shock.

Personally I believe fundamentalist Christians like the Florida Family are a much greater threat to American Democracy than all the Muslims ever born.

12/13/2011 6:27:35 AM

shykid

The show profiles only Muslims that appear to be ordinary folks while excluding many Islamic believers whose agenda poses a clear and present danger to liberties and traditional values that the majority of Americans cherish.

And most Christians are portrayed by the media as ordinary folks while excluding Christian terrorists like Anders Behring Breivik, Eric Robert Rudolph, Scott Roeder, Hutaree, the Klu Klux Klan, the Christian Identity movement, the Orange Volunteers, etc. That’s because most Christians are decent people, just like most Muslims.

Also, “traditional” doesn’t mean “good.” According to The Bible, “traditional” values include slavery, polygamy, and stoning disobedient children, among other things. Similarly, according to American history, “traditional” values include denying women the right to vote, racial segregation, slavery, killing Native Americans, etc.


One of the most troubling scenes occurred at the introduction of the program when a Muslim police officer stated ‘I really am American. No ifs and or buts about it.’

How the fuck is this troubling? “o noez, someone not just like me has the gall to say they are a true American”

The first two episodes start off with Muslim youth complaining about non-Muslim Americans’ perception of them as extremists after 911.

...and? If you don’t like them complaining, then maybe you should treat them equally.

Many Imams who are at the head of these prayer rituals believe strongly in Islam and Sharia law.

Citation needed on the Sharia law. Either way, how is this any different than you people believing strongly in Christianity and wanting to turn America into a Christian theocracy?

Clearly this program is attempting to manipulate Americans into ignoring the threat of jihad and to influence them to believe that being concerned about the jihad threat would somehow victimize these nice people in this show.

lol, these people are so terrified that others will see most Muslim Americans are kind and productive members of society, not the scary terrorist radicals they try to paint them out to be.

12/13/2011 6:36:35 AM

Mister Spak

The first two episodes start off with Muslim youth complaining about non-Muslim Americans’ perception of them as extremists after 911."

They must be reading your posts.

"The show then reports on these youths’ daily, weekly and monthly prayer rituals."

But christians would never engage in daily, weekly and monthly prayer ritual the way those killer terrorist muslims do.

12/13/2011 6:52:06 AM

tranz2deep

And the reason those "many" believers are excluded are that they are ehither figments of the lowing herd's imagination or just the flakes, kinda like every OTHER group's flakes.

This is the Learning Channel, and they are trying to educate.

Florida Family, on the other hand, wants to put the internment camps back into use..

12/13/2011 6:56:23 AM

lisamariefan

Sharia law and jihad again?

How is there obsession with this any different than most fundie's obsession with gay sex?

12/13/2011 7:01:35 AM

dionysus

Sure. Let's always show the extremists instead of the majority of normal people that just want to live their lives. We SOOOOOOOO don't show enough extremists on TV. But why stop at Muslims? Let's digitally add the Westborough Baptist Church into every episode of Little House on the Prairie. Let's add Free Republic members to every single movie about America. Let's put the KKK in every movie starring white people.

12/13/2011 7:14:21 AM

Doubting Thomas

The show profiles only Muslims that appear to be ordinary folks while excluding many Islamic believers whose agenda poses a clear and present danger to liberties and traditional values

So any time there's a program about Christianity, they should always include the Phelps clan of the WBC and Christian extremists who bomb abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors. Just to be fair, of course.

One of the most troubling scenes occurred at the introduction of the program when a Muslim police officer stated "I really am American. No ifs and or buts about it."

Why is this troubling? Are you worried that not all Americans are Christians? Are you worried that your stereotypes of all Muslims hating America aren't true?

The first two episodes start off with Muslim youth complaining about non-Muslim Americans’ perception of them as extremists after 911.

And here you are, after 9/11, trying to portray all Muslims as extremists and claiming that showing normal Muslims is propaganda. If you still can't see the need for this kind of TV show, then you're a bigoted idiot.

Many Imams who are at the head of these prayer rituals believe strongly in Islam

Imams believing strongly in Islam??? Say it isn't so!!! Next thing you know they'll have programs with rabbis believing strongly in Judaism or Baptist ministers believing strongly in Christianity.

Clearly this program is attempting to manipulate Americans into ignoring the threat of jihad and to influence them to believe that being concerned about the jihad threat would somehow victimize these nice people in this show. [...]

Because if you're calling for rounding up every Muslim in America and imprisoning them or kicking them out of the country, then yes, it will victimize these nice people.

12/13/2011 7:14:52 AM

Adey

I just tried to access the link and found a message saying they were under attack. Either they are lying and have removed the article or we have crashed their server.

A Muslim policeman isn't American? Does this mean a Native American Policeman isn't American?
So I take it that this bigot will not accept as a law enforcer anyone who does not believe the exactly the way he does.

12/13/2011 7:17:55 AM

D Laurier

The insane, fever pitch, anti islamic, hate mongering, has been running on wide open throttle since about 1977... and escalating steadily the whole time.
33 years of anti islamic hate propaganda pouring from the American media in a steady, ever intensifying, torrent.
But now an American TV show is being made that actualy portrays muslims as people, and these waffles are upset about it.

12/13/2011 7:22:58 AM

Joe Mama

Any more, whenever I hear "sharia law," I think "Gaaaah! Dem evil mooslems!!! Wargarblegarblegarblegarble!!!!!"

If any of these Islamaphobia mongers would only take the time to read the US Constitution, they'd see that Islamic sharia law could not legally be instituted. Not only that, but Muslims are such a tiny percentage of the population that I don't see how they're going to "take over" any time soon.

12/13/2011 8:06:03 AM

LDM

Or maybe they're just your average Muslim family wanting to set the record straight?

12/13/2011 8:21:50 AM
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