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#1357564
checkmate
Wow!!!
I can't become a Mason, I'm too old to become an astronaut, and my chances of winning the lottery are itsy bitsy tiny.
Life really is shit, isn't it? ;-)
12/14/2011 12:57:38 PM
#1357567
Old Viking
As long as I'm welcome in the Loyal Order of Muskrats I don't need the Masons anyway.
12/14/2011 12:59:39 PM
#1357569
Oh well, at least the sea otters will still take me.
12/14/2011 1:01:28 PM
#1357570
Colgate
Posting this as typical Fundy sounds a little like bitching because you can't receive Catholic Communion because you're not a Catholic. What's the point?
12/14/2011 1:01:59 PM
#1357571
Argle Bargle
Oh noes, I can't join your snooty social club.
Neener neener to you to, bub.
12/14/2011 1:02:29 PM
#1357592
Bollox
I call that a lucky escape for atheists. Who needs the society of golf club bores?
12/14/2011 1:17:35 PM
#1357617
breakereslion
"The first conclusion is that Atheists are incapable of following God's Moral Law,..."
True. One cannot follow that which doesn't exist. Morality is a human construct and a social compact.
"... and they are therefore incapable of meeting on the Square. the most often-quoted example of this comes from James Anderson in his Constitutions of Free-Masons (p. 50): 'A Mason is oblig'd, by his Tenure, to obey the moral Law; and if he rightly understands the Art, he will never be a stupid Atheist, nor an irregular Libertine.'"
Oh, where to start?
1. Non sequitur. Yes, I know what it means, but it is demonstrably untrue. Do you think for one minute you have not had "closet" atheists in your organization? Obviously they weren't so readily detectable.
2. Any statement or by-law with a word like "oblig'd" in it should be subject to immediate review. It dates to a time when they "hang'd" witches.
3. Which is more stupid, believing in an unprovable god without proof, or believing that the whole concept was made up by The Animal Who Lies?
As for the rest of your argument, the number of law-abiding, just, and merciful atheists living alongside you are proof that we do not suffer from Lord of the Flies Syndrome.
Your loss.
Edit: @ Old Viking - Whose turn is it to bring the duct tape? Oh wait, that's Possum Lodge. Forget you heard that.
12/14/2011 2:07:52 PM
#1357618
TheJebusFire
["would be to lessen confidence and weaken friendship, and no obligation would be regarded as binding among men ... Mankind would give way to the most unrestrained, cruel, and base passions of their worst natures. The very foundations of good order would be subverted, and society would soon degenerate into a state of anarchy."]
You forgot: Rivers will run blood and nazis will once again ride dinosaurs!
12/14/2011 2:09:07 PM
#1357624
Agahnim
Meh, I don't want to join your silly little club anyway.
12/14/2011 2:19:27 PM
#1357643
Hertzyscowicz
So, all of this instead of just pointing out the "you gotta believe in a god to join" clause in the rules?
12/14/2011 2:27:42 PM
#1357653
Brendan Rizzo
Why should we care about atheists joining the Freemasons? Do we WANT conspiracy theorists linking atheism with Freemasonry? They already connect it with Catholicism even though Catholics are forbidden to join, by Papal decree.
12/14/2011 2:44:28 PM
#1357678
Wehpudicabok
@Colgate:
I'd say calling this:
"Mankind would give way to the most unrestrained, cruel, and base passions of their worst natures. The very foundations of good order would be subverted, and society would soon degenerate into a state of anarchy."
the natural result of atheism is pretty damn fundie. But I don't really care about the "you can't join our club" bit, either.
12/14/2011 3:38:08 PM
#1357694
Pule Thamex
I love being base, or stupid, or atheistic as its sometimes referred to, apparently, because it means I don't have to "uphold God's moral law", or "behave immorally" as it's also sometimes put.
Mind you, to tell the truth, I do envy the way that non-atheists have with words, specially masonic non-atheists. Non-atheists seem to have an easy way with words' meanings. Wouldn't it be great if you could say, for instance, "uphold God's moral law" and not mean "be a deranged criminal egoist" but instead just mean "be a typically self entitled misogynistic bigoted oaf". Or it would be great to be able to say so-and-so is "base" and have "base" mean "stupid atheist who doesn't believe in an invisible genocidal maniac with super magic powers who particularly loves deranged white men of a certain ancestry".
Sigh! I guess there's something to be said for non-atheism after all.
12/14/2011 4:19:27 PM
#1357697
tracer
I am an irregular Libertine AND I VOTE!
12/14/2011 4:30:32 PM
#1357711
Skatepunk
Good! I may not be an atheist (yet), but I don't give a rat's ass about joining the Masons!
12/14/2011 4:42:02 PM
#1357717
gaijinlaw
Fine, I won't join the Masons. That will leave me more time to do what I really want, become an adult leader for the Boy Scouts of America!
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Say what now? Shit!
12/14/2011 4:49:02 PM
#1357719
Raised by Horses
(sniffles) Atheists are big, mean POOPY-HEADS!
-Ernst (Addendum)
12/14/2011 4:49:28 PM
#1357738
JB Mason
Modern off-shoots of masonry (that stand a chance of having relevance in the 21st century) have accepted that "There is no god but Man."
12/14/2011 5:39:38 PM
#1357745
Alencon
Why would I want to be a Freemason anyway?
It's not really high on my list of desires. As a matter of fact, I can't find it on the list at all.
12/14/2011 5:50:57 PM
#1357760
LDM
Who wants to join your stupid club anyway?
12/14/2011 6:11:58 PM
#1357782
aaa
To be perfectly honest, i don't give a shit about your over-rated organization. If i wanted to join a secretive society, i'd join something that actually bothers to get shit done and have productive discussion.
12/14/2011 7:02:30 PM
#1357787
Fine, be a bigot. I wouldn't join an organization like that if you paid me.
BTW I've been told that the Moose Lodge allow atheists to join. Is that right? They seem like a cool group.
12/14/2011 7:07:34 PM
#1357834
The Watcher
Fine, I don't want to go to your weekly sausage fest anyway. If I wanted to go somewhere women aren't allowed I'd go play in my kid's treehouse.
12/14/2011 8:54:30 PM
#1357838
werewolf
Oh, good.
12/14/2011 9:10:14 PM
#1357876
SomeoneYouKnow
Please the Masons are overrated, now the Stonecutters on the other hand are the best secret society!
Who controls the British crown?
Who keeps the metric system down?
We do! We do!
Who leaves Atlantis off the maps?
Who keeps the Martians under wraps?
We do! We do!
Who holds back the electric car?
Who makes Steve Gutenberg a star?
We do! We do!
Who robs cavefish of their sight?
Who rigs every Oscar night?
We do! We do!
12/14/2011 10:57:30 PM
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