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While a parent ultimately makes the decision, I think Christians should seriously consider removing their children from public schools. Education is not secular, it is a distinctly Christian act rooted in God.

Ruiz, BaptistBoard 62 Comments [12/16/2011 6:24:47 AM]
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Wait... what the fuck?

12/16/2011 6:26:52 AM

Sweet Fancy Moses

What Efrain said.

12/16/2011 6:29:46 AM

D Laurier

Education has always been secular, even when controled by religious authoritys.
Education predates christianity by several thousand years, ergo it CANNOT be "a distinctly christian act".

12/16/2011 6:35:38 AM


That's why Asian kids have such a bad reputation in education and the stereotype is that they suck at math. There are absolutely no Japanese, Chinese, or Indian scholars at all ever.

12/16/2011 6:58:44 AM

Mister Spak

Because PI=3, not 3.14126blahblahblah. The liberals are trying to confuse your children with thousands of numbers when you need only one.

12/16/2011 7:01:15 AM


If that's the case why are so many Christians ill educated? Not a good case for your god there

12/16/2011 7:02:59 AM


According to Ruiz, the following are distinctly Christian statements:

"Rainbows are caused by the way sunlight reflects off of raindrops."

"George Washington was the first president of the United States."

"2 + 2 = 4"

12/16/2011 7:03:54 AM


Translation: If you want them to stay religious, keep 'em dumb and unquestioning.

12/16/2011 7:15:27 AM

Doubting Thomas

Good. More teacher time for my kids. And maybe they could actually learn about evolution in school instead of having teachers skirting the issue because they're too afraid of backlash by fundie Christian parents.

But I'm still trying to wrap my head around "Education is a Christian act, so Christians take your kids out of school."

12/16/2011 7:21:51 AM


Yes, those damn public schools. There's always at least one bad apple of a teacher that fosters independent thought, anathema to religion. Much better to be educated by pathological liars who know everything. No thinking required.

12/16/2011 8:33:11 AM

Brendan Rizzo

No, education must be secular (which is not the same as atheistic) otherwise it will just be pure bias from beginning to end. Every other country in the free world has completely secular education, and in theory so does the US, but you fuckers devote all your energy to destroying the US public school system, and have damn well succeeded. It is the absolute worst in the entire free world. You should be ASHAMED of yourselves, but instead, you are proud of wrecking this once-great country! The Teabaggers are the eternal enemies of America; communists and terrorists are only transient.

12/16/2011 8:45:15 AM


@Brendan Rizzo

Good point.

12/16/2011 8:52:03 AM


That smells like a Poe. Though the amount of ignorance in those two sentences is not beyond the potential of some, I have trouble believing that one of those people would have the mental capacity to understand how to use the internet.

12/16/2011 9:11:26 AM


Yet your god commands you to remain ignorant...in fact punishes all of mankind for learning in the Garden in the beginning of your book

12/16/2011 9:37:39 AM


Education is a Christian act? So no one taught their kids anything before Christianity?

12/16/2011 10:09:09 AM


@ Brendan Rizzo

I am sad now. Hopefully the system improves.

Idealistic as it is, I think it will. This kind of political divide we have today is not much different as it was in the 60s.

As for Ruiz, religious education is inherently biased. Secular education is the way to go.

12/16/2011 10:10:28 AM


And all the edumacating that happened before the advent of the christian deity means...

12/16/2011 10:18:03 AM


"It is ultimately the parents decision... to only do what I think they should do."

12/16/2011 10:44:47 AM


I think that's a great idea. Your kids can stop wasting teachers time and they can concentrate on children who actually want to learn.

12/16/2011 11:03:49 AM


I disagree with many of my fellow FSTDT'ers here. We need to protect these children somehow from their parents who will destroy their lives. I don't know what the answer is, I mean I guess it is un-American to dictate to a parent how to raise their children but we, as a society, have to ask ourselves a question. If these kids were mature adults, knowing what we know, would they have decided that being home schooled by religious lunatics was in their best interests?

I think not.

PS - Pete (the next post) cut right to the chase and I like it!

12/16/2011 11:23:40 AM


I think that it should be illegal to fill the heads of children with religious claptrap. Next!

12/16/2011 11:23:59 AM

Pule Thamex

Yes, I think Ruiz is right. Children need to be suitably equipped to face all the demands of adulthood. A Christian or Fundamental Cultist schooling is the way to best provide for a child's future. We all know that an invisible non-existent god-man-ghost helps con-men to fill their pockets and to bolster their ego, but they need the type of undiscerning adult who knows not ask any awkward questions and who will believe any old tosh that they're told. And what better an institution to manufacture the right type of adult than a Christian or Fundamental Cultist school.

As a parent with children receiving the right teaching you can rest assured your child will be receiving good lessons in gullibility, will learn how to lie unconvincingly, know the best way to convey his or her bigotry and the best way to make use of his or her glorious ignorance. Also, children are encouraged to play a full part in the community by learning how to treat practically anything as a persecution of their Christian or cultish beliefs, as well as, and perhaps more importantly, knowing how to persecute mercilessly those who disagree with them.

But perhaps the most important lesson is servility. Your children will learn how to become servile lackeys to any blustering dimwit who quotes biblical verses at them. Of course, girls will learn how to be servile to all men and need not go to school at all, having all they are required to know beaten in to them by their master at home.

12/16/2011 11:25:57 AM


"While a parent ultimately makes the decision, I think Christians should seriously consider removing their children from public schools. Education is not secular, it is a distinctly Christian act rooted in God."

...meanwhile on Planet Reality, here in the UK, even homeschooling/private tutoring has to conform to the National Curriculum. This especially includes 'faith' schools.

If said 'Faith' Schools are to receive state funding, they must comply with the law, re. said National Curriculum, which means they must teach Evolution & the Big Bang as fact.

No 'Kitzmiller vs. Dover required.

Take it from someone who was a product of Britain's state-controlled, secular education system. It's done me - an Atheist - no harm whatsoever. But that's what comes from a school system with teachers who encouraged us to think for ourselves.

12/16/2011 11:30:17 AM



12/16/2011 1:35:39 PM

Joe Mama

Education is a Christian act, so Christians shouldn't let their kids be educated?

Oh right, you think that schools are atheist indoctrination centers, while you instruct your kids to the unquestioned "truth" of Christianity at home. Which is totally not brainwashing.

12/16/2011 1:59:57 PM

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