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You just need to read Genesis 1 to know how the world was created and who created it.

Don't forget there has been a lot of spin by the likes of Hawkings, Dawkins, Attenborough et al, but no one has ever seen any true, validated, peer reviewed science that disproves God's amazing creation.

Whether you choose to believe it or not is totally your choice agreed, but, the facts remain, God created everything including us !

It is only mans arrogance that desires to try and disprove that in the belief that they don't need to be accountable to anyone.

Also don't forget if you believe in Darwinism by default that leads to racism and relevatism, ie; you have your truth and I'll have mine.... - so who are you to judge !

Infowarrior, Sky News 56 Comments [12/18/2011 9:31:53 AM]
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JustMister

Argumentum ad Ignorantiam, this is a perfect example.

12/18/2011 9:34:34 AM

Atheissimo

I'd say the belief that the entire world, let alone the entire universe, was created specifically for your puny little species pretty much takes the arrogance cake. Not only that, but within that species it just so happens that you and a few hundred million are the favourite of a being so powerful that it can create a universe worth of matter with a single word.

And if you believe in gravity it means you must believe all things HAVE to fall to Earth, and anything that defies that must be killed? Isn't that how it works?

12/18/2011 9:38:27 AM

derpmaster

The creation story is true because it's in the Bible. The Bible is true because the Bible says it is.

Checkmate, atheists. This is Deep Blue, signing out.

12/18/2011 9:43:15 AM

MK

The box you live in is very narrow and cramped indeed to allow you such an ability to close your ears and eyes to reality.

12/18/2011 9:56:04 AM

Anon-e-moose

"Don't forget there has been a lot of spin by the likes of Hawkings, Dawkins, Attenborough et al, but no one has ever seen any true, validated, peer reviewed science that disproves God's amazing creation."

Don't forget there has been Kitzmiller vs. Dover:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District#Decision

"you have your truth and I'll have mine.... - so who are you to judge !"

See above. The Honourable Judge John E. Jones III would like a word with you. Even he would tell you that evidence - facts - destroys mere 'Truth'. And he's a Conservative Christian, who in turn was personally appointed to the Federal bench by George Dumbya Bush - a Christian Conservative who believes in Creationism. And who was he in turn voted in - twice - by, pray tell...?

Christian Conservatives who believe Genesis to be literal.

The law itself proves otherwise. And a little thing called Romans 13:1-5 orders you to agree with the law, specifically Judge Jones' ruling in KvD. Otherwise you're going to Hell, (No)Infowimp.

Don't forget...! >:D

12/18/2011 10:00:52 AM

gravematter

1. Who is Hawkings?
2. Darwinism does not lead to racism. You're thinking of "social darwinism". Completely different.
3. Darwinism does not lead to relativism. If you think it does, you might want to give some sort of argument to support it.
4. Granted, no-one can prove that god doesn't exist. But you can't prove god does exist either. Genesis 1 does not count as proof.
5. You're deranged.

12/18/2011 10:29:59 AM

Flah

"Don't forget there has been a lot of spin by the likes of Hawkings, Dawkins, Attenborough et al, but no one has ever seen any true, validated, peer reviewed science that disproves God's amazing creation."

Please point me to a true, validated, peer reviewed article that proves that God had any part in creating the Universe. One that is less than 2000 years old.

"It is only mans arrogance that desires to try and disprove that in the belief that they don't need to be accountable to anyone."

One must always be accountable to oneself and to one's society. You will easily know if you do something that is against what is in your heart. And society will say, in its laws and conventions, what is acceptable to it. But to only follow a being who does not interact with the world leads to nothing but excuses as you attribute your own selfish impulses and prejudices to outside forces whose intentions you can only guess at.

"Also don't forget if you believe in Darwinism by default that leads to racism and relevatism, ie; you have your truth and I'll have mine.... - so who are you to judge !"

Dismissal of a way of life with a flippant and inaccurate statement is something worthy of a 14-year-old or a strawman in a bad novel. It is not a valid argument.

12/18/2011 10:41:25 AM

Swede

Who created God?

Have you read Genesis 2? How come it contradicts Genesis 1?

What the heck is relevatism?

12/18/2011 10:48:12 AM

Pule Thamex

Indeed, it is up to Infowarrior if he wants to believe in an invisible non-existent god-man-ghost with a penchant for genocide and a love of the gullible. A sky fairy who is beloved of conmen and money worshipers everywhere and, presumably, Infowarrior.

12/18/2011 11:05:35 AM

anevilmeme

"there has been a lot of spin...."

Oh, by spin you mean evidence.


12/18/2011 11:09:53 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Have there ever been any peer-reviewed scientific papers that evolution is false? No, there have not. Also, Darwin was not a racist (at least by the standards of the nineteenth century) and racism existed long before Darwin. In fact, racism as we know it (that is, European-style) grew out of a belief that only Christians were worthy of respect. Since none of the peoples whom the Europeans met on their explorations were Christian, they were all treated as subhuman.

12/18/2011 11:33:29 AM

Zagen30

That last sentence makes me call Poe.

12/18/2011 11:43:01 AM

Darwin

"...if you believe in Darwinism by default that leads to racism and relevatism..."

It doesn't, but even if it did, so what? It says nothing about the validity of evolution.

Next.

12/18/2011 11:51:53 AM

Osiris

I don't know about this Darwinism, but in our world I accept the theory of evolution, abiogenesis, and the Big Bang as valid, scientific facts.

12/18/2011 12:14:01 PM

Papabear

No, reading Genesis informs me only of what the authors wanted to tell others was how the world was created and who created it. As it comes with no proofs, it has no more authority than Grimm's fairy tales.

As to arrogance, it is far more arrogant to claim something is true with no credible evidence than to base one's beliefs upon proven facts and credible evidence.

P.S. I understand and accept the ToE. I am not a racist. Thanks for assuming that I am though.

12/18/2011 12:24:42 PM

checkmate

You just need to read Genesis 1 ... no one has ever seen any true, validated, peer reviewed science that disproves God's amazing creation.

Of course the scientific theories have been peer reviewed and remain under constant scrutiny and critical study. How silly.

Now, would you please provide me with a peer review of the Bible? Good luck finding a peer.



... if you believe in Darwinism by default that leads to racism and relevatism

Huh? Racism?

Do you mean the "I'm better than you because you're closer to the apes" racism?

Relevatism?

Do you mean the "since God wasn't involved, we can do anything we want" cop out?

Religion isn't necessary for morals, dear friend.

12/18/2011 12:27:03 PM

DinosaurRidinJeebus

These people are so fucking dumb I can't even think of a god damn comment to this.

Burden of proof you fucktard. Learn it.

12/18/2011 1:14:47 PM

farpadokly

"No one has ever seen any true, validated, peer reviewed science that prove's God's amazing creation". You're making it too easy for us.
What Darwin has to do with racism and relativism I can't imagine.

12/18/2011 1:21:39 PM

Headache

But Infowarriror, the bible confuses me...

According to Genesis, we must live in Universe 2.0 since there are TWO creation stories and they are different from each other and since the bible is inerrant, they can't both be true so that must mean God destroyed the first universe and then created a new one, hence Universe 2.0

12/18/2011 1:23:20 PM

John

"You just need to read Genesis 1 to know one of the hundreds of stories invented by people thousands of years ago to try and explain how the world was created and who created it."

There. Fixed.

... no one has ever seen any true, validated, peer reviewed science that disproves God's amazing creation.

There's certainly plenty of peer-reviewed science to disprove Genesis.

12/18/2011 1:25:49 PM

Doubting Thomas

no one has ever seen any true, validated, peer reviewed science that disproves God's amazing creation.

When you people claim that the earth was created 6000 years ago and all humans & animals were created as they exist today, I think science has disproved this idea several times over. If you'd only take the time to read any validated, peer-reviewed articles about evolution or the origin of the universe, you'll not see any reference to any gods in there at all. And Kent Hovind's "thesis" doesn't qualify.

12/18/2011 1:35:39 PM

whoanelly

After reading this site, I have to admit: I hate people who think evolution is a lie.

Edit: rather, I hate their ignorance, pseudoscience, and la la la I can't hear you attitude.

12/18/2011 2:08:33 PM

Old Viking

He's talking about Lem Hawkings. Played left field for the Detroit Tigers back in the 40's.

12/18/2011 2:19:11 PM



The world was created, ordered from Slartibartfast, by the transdimensional MICE. Says so in a book.

I am accountable to society at large , which sets the rules I must obey or the men in blue with guns come and arrest me.

Luckily no one believes in Darwinism. Curiously Hitler was convined by Catholicism that his enemies were the Jews. He was , not so curiously supported by the Catholic church for much of his time as leader of Germany.

Genesis 1 conflicts with Genesis 2. The whole part of Adams first wife Lilith , sexual positions, and so forth were cut.

12/18/2011 2:45:59 PM

Hertzyscowicz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Darwinism

Is there something you are trying to tell us, Info?

12/18/2011 3:38:42 PM
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