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You whiny, sniveling, little, pusillanimous cowards. You have the audacity to tell us Christians that we are “weak” and that our religion is a “crutch.” You are supposed to be so “courageous”, venturing forth boldly into the existential mystery of being alone, facing with stoicism the nothingness that awaits you at death, priding yourself on your realism and self-reliance. You are a bunch of feeble fakers.

Yes, you are outsiders. Go start your own damn country. This one was started by Christians, you puerile dimwits. It is Christians who established and largely Christians who fought and died to maintain the freedoms you enjoy. And Christians are still the majority. Apparently your vaulted belief system doesn’t equip you to handle being in the minority. That’s interesting, isn’t it? After all, this was and is a societal situation valiantly handled by millions and millions of Christians who suffered — and currently suffer — real oppression, violence, torture, economic deprivation, and cruel deaths. But you have to go through turning off the TV once in a while and so your precious puny feelings are hurt. How delicate and frail your mental architecture is!

You are a pitiful joke. Trembling over the mere mention of God. Running like babies to court because of your brittle feelings. “Oh, but judge, but judge, I saw a cross and I just can’t stand it.” “I heard someone say ‘Merry Christmas’ and it hurt my feelings.” “I just can’t sleep knowing there is a manger scene at the courthouse.” “The sight of the Ten Commandments makes me wet my pants.” Now we see how inadequate and feeble you really are. Rage, therapists say, is the flip side of helplessness. And so we see your rage against religion in the public square for what it is: a product of your own insubstantial internal resources. Go look at yourself in the mirror if you can bear the pathetic, contemptible sight of yourself. Our merest martyr shows you to be a wimp – fourteen-year-old Kizito of Uganda singing hymns while being burned alive. But you, you anemic, lily-livered worms – you quail at pushing the off button on the remote! Hah!


Mary Kochan, Catholic Lane 112 Comments [12/18/2011 9:41:07 AM]
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Nicole

"Apparently your vaulted belief system doesn’t equip you to handle being in the minority."

Something tells me Mary doesn't belong to any minority groups.

12/18/2011 9:49:27 AM

MK

The projection here is strong enough to show Avatar in 3D to all of Central Park.

12/18/2011 9:51:16 AM

Giardono Bruno

I have friends in the US Army and Navy. I am glad they do not think like this.

12/18/2011 9:54:01 AM

Banter

"Hey look, I can use big words! That makes me better than you!"

Using martyrs to define a religious belief or lack of belief's strength is a pretty stupid metric there, too.

12/18/2011 9:54:24 AM

Robespierre

Your particular tribe does not own the country, no matter how big it is.

12/18/2011 9:55:57 AM

Eisenhorn

Somehow, I have a feeling Mary would be the one who couldn't handle being the minority. If the proportions switched and atheists became the dominant people in America she'd start blowing up hospitals and airports

12/18/2011 9:56:40 AM

Rohanwotan2

Copy from Michael Coren much? You really should give attribution when you plagiarize.

12/18/2011 9:57:04 AM

Quantum Mechanic

Looks like Mary is among the idiots who FAILED American History.

Die in a fire, lying bitch.

But, before you die, read the Treaty of Tripoli.
Then die.
Idiot.

12/18/2011 9:57:21 AM

Atheissimo

Come on guys, sing with me! 'And they'll know we are Christians by our love, by our love, and they'll know we are Christians by our loooooove!'

Also, your constitution, read it.

12/18/2011 10:01:00 AM

kuribo

so when you rage like this, it shows your impotence?

12/18/2011 10:04:26 AM



Call us names using all the big words you want, it won't make you any less wrong.

12/18/2011 10:14:29 AM

Jeff D.

Babies can run?

12/18/2011 10:14:59 AM

DevilsChaplain

Well, what a little ball of sunshine.

12/18/2011 10:16:35 AM

Rageaholic

Feel that Christian love!

12/18/2011 10:20:25 AM

derpmaster

Hooray it's a big ass bowl of false dichotomy soup. Today's flavor: persecuted white Christians vs. PC satanist secularists.

12/18/2011 10:24:39 AM

freako104

And while it was founded by Christians, they were afraid of anything not in their belief system,paranoid, and yes. Weak. Salem Witch Trials come to mind. But the Constitution disagrees with you. As the Treaty of Tripoli. You want a theocracy, try Saudi Arabia


Edit: Uganda has laws based on Old Testament you fail hard

12/18/2011 10:29:44 AM

Hades

I see a lot of "big" words trying to mask and pad out a poorly conceived "argument" that could have been conveyed in a sentence or two.

12/18/2011 10:39:31 AM

OhJohnNo

"Rage, therapists say, is the flip side of helplessness."

Oh yes. Yes, it definitely is.

12/18/2011 10:47:41 AM

breakerslion

Come here and say that. Also:

"Sticks and stones, may break our bones, but keep your cheesy religious paraphernalia the fuck off my lawn!"

If I see one more statue of the Alleg-ed Virgin Mary in a bathtub, I'll puke my guts out. You know those statues are an abstraction of a vagina, don't you? Take a good hard look at Labia Girl:

http://invisible.signaly.cz/1111/genesis-3-15

http://www.classic-religious-statues.com/images/mary-immaculate.jpg

(for example)

Who's the joke???

12/18/2011 10:54:42 AM

Skatepunk

Most of this is bull obviously.

But I agree with one thing: Merry Christmas should not hurt anyone's feelings.

12/18/2011 11:02:38 AM

Reynardine

Our vaulted belief system?? My observation is that it is Church architecture that most reflects a vaulted belief system, and when, as at the Cluny cathedral, it overarches itself, it collapses with unspeakably ugly sounds like this.

12/18/2011 11:11:09 AM

Brendan Rizzo

In bold is my commentary to this.

You whiny, sniveling, little, pusillanimous cowards. Ooh, starting off insulting, are we? You have the audacity to tell us Christians that we are “weak” and that our religion is a “crutch.” You are supposed to be so “courageous”, venturing forth boldly into the existential mystery of being alone, facing with stoicism the nothingness that awaits you at death, priding yourself on your realism and self-reliance. You are a bunch of feeble fakers. Well, at the very least, I must admire her word choice and proper grammar, but nothing else in that paragraph makes sense.

Yes, you are outsiders.Why is that relevant? Go start your own damn country. This one was started by Christians, you puerile dimwits. No, it was not. None of the important Founding Fathers (Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Madison and Franklin) were Christians, and even if they were, it wouldn't matter, because they specifically made the United States secular in the Constitution. I should also point out that countries like the ones in Scandinavia which are largely atheistic are also doing much better than us at the present time. It is Christians who established and largely Christians who fought and died to maintain the freedoms you enjoy. There have always been Americans of various religious beliefs (or none at all) who fought to maintain freedom, so that means nothing. And Christians are still the majority. The only reason that's the case (if by Christian you mean fundamentalist, which you probably do) is because our education system is the worst in the free world. Countries with better education systems don't have any equivalent of the Tea Party or organized creationist movements. Apparently your vaulted belief system doesn’t equip you to handle being in the minority.Where did you get that fact from, your ass? That’s interesting, isn’t it? After all, this was and is a societal situation valiantly handled by millions and millions of Christians who suffered — and currently suffer — real oppression, violence, torture, economic deprivation, and cruel deaths. By "and currently suffer" I really hope you mean Third World hellholes such as some countries in the Middle East. Because there is not a single country in the entire civilized world which has religious persecution going on. Even in Canada, Australia and Europe, Christians are a majority, just a silent one most of the time. But if you are referring to what Pat Robertson thinks is persecution, and I think you are, then you seriously need a sense of perspective. But you have to go through turning off the TV once in a while and so your precious puny feelings are hurt. How delicate and frail your mental architecture is! Whoa whoa whoa, this is exactly what fundamentalist Christians do! They can't handle being in the minority at all! Take that mirror away; you could blind yourself with it.

You are a pitiful joke. Trembling over the mere mention of God. It isn't "the mere mention of God" that gets atheists angry. It's the constant misinformation that is circulated about them, and the attempt by Christians to establish a theocracy, that gets them angry. If Christians were as consistently defamed as atheists are in the United States, I am sure that you would be the most vocal opponent of that. Running like babies to court because of your brittle feelings. “Oh, but judge, but judge, I saw a cross and I just can’t stand it.” “I heard someone say ‘Merry Christmas’ and it hurt my feelings.” “I just can’t sleep knowing there is a manger scene at the courthouse.” “The sight of the Ten Commandments makes me wet my pants.” Every single one of those is a straw man. People are perfectly allowed to have religious symbols on their private property. However, the government is not allowed to promote any one religion to the exclusion of others, and saying things like "Merry Christmas" (excluding all the other holidays celebrated about that time) in department stores or displaying the Ten Commandments in a federal courthouse are explicitly Christian things which exclude all non-Christians, not just atheists. You are perfectly allowed to do both of those things on your private property, or on your own time, but you are not allowed to do or display them on public property if you work for the government. Neither can a Muslim, or a Jew, or a Hindu, or a Sikh, or a practitioner of any other religion, yet for some reason you never care when any of their symbols are removed from public grounds. Now we see how inadequate and feeble you really are. Rage, therapists say, is the flip side of helplessness. Righteous indignation has been defined as "the sense of injustice". And so we see your rage against religion in the public square for what it is: a product of your own insubstantial internal resources. Go look at yourself in the mirror if you can bear the pathetic, contemptible sight of yourself. You do the same, or rather don't, since you're already projecting. Our merest martyr shows you to be a wimp – fourteen-year-old Kizito of Uganda singing hymns while being burned alive. But you, you anemic, lily-livered worms – you quail at pushing the off button on the remote! Hah! Tell that to Hypatia.

12/18/2011 11:17:10 AM



Nobody told you you can't say Merry Christmas. On the other hand, the government should not say "Merry Christmas," because of separation of church and state. Durrrr. And most businesses refrain from explicitly mentioning christmas because they want to be tolerant of as many customers as possible: good for business. You, as a probable supporter of capitalism, should understand at least that much. As for you, you can go around singing Merry Christmas to whoever you'd like. Just don't go whining if somebody yells back at you Happy Kwanzaa.

12/18/2011 11:18:23 AM

ShadowNet

Doesn't the love just boil out of their words? Or is that a nauseating hatred for everyone not like you?

12/18/2011 11:23:38 AM

Darwin

"... fourteen-year-old Kizito of Uganda singing hymns while being burned alive."

A tragedy to be sure, and a brave child no doubt. But this only proves the fervency of the belief, not the veracity.

Fail.

12/18/2011 11:45:57 AM
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