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(Western) Atheism may be defined as a showy, populist and pseudo-intellectualism of denying the existence of God. It is an excuse for those trying to justify their self-given freedom from moral obligations. It is a cathalyst of individualism, drug-dependency and the survival of the (criminally) fittest. It makes people bastardize their heritage and become vulnerable --- example, the continent of Europe has been sold to Islam and crimes by its atheistic, and therefore greedily corrupt leaders. Now Europeans are in perpetual fear of Islamic domination.

Nur El-Masih Ben Haq, facebook atheism page 47 Comments [12/21/2011 5:29:25 AM]
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Atheism is not believing in God. Period.

12/21/2011 11:51:41 AM


Atheism is not believing in God. Period.

12/21/2011 11:54:13 AM


I am amazed to discover that I am addicted to drugs despite never having used them. To say nothing of the rest of this blather.

12/21/2011 12:22:35 PM

This is just a random series of insults. It makes no sense. And I'll bet $10 that you've never been to Europe.

12/21/2011 12:27:50 PM


self-given freedom from moral obligations.

Uhh, no.

In fact, in many cases:

Christian = double standard morals and ethics, chuck full of hypocrisy, with indirect accountability.

atheist = single standard morals and ethics, no excuses, no cop outs, with direct accountability.

Why do the more fundamentalist Christians always assume they have a monopoly on morals? The most important works on ethics are pre-Christian: Confucius, early Greek philosophers, etc. Even the Babylonian Gilgamesh epic is moralistic.

12/21/2011 12:45:55 PM

We're not obligated to your fake morality.

12/21/2011 1:31:02 PM

D Laurier

Atheism may be best defined as a boring, private, and personal, position of not buying the existence of any gods.
It requires assuming personal responsibility rather than waiting for a god to fix everything.
It tends to promote portecting one's reasoning ability, and avoiding self harming habbits like mind screwing drugs or exessive alcohol.
It almost requires active volunteering in one's community.

12/21/2011 2:39:24 PM


citation needed

12/21/2011 3:11:20 PM

Old Viking

(Western) Atheism could be defined as ...

It could also be defined as a banana split. A lot depends on your mood.

12/21/2011 3:31:10 PM


Woohoo! One thing I have NEVER been called is showy.

We atheists are not free from moral obligations, we just don't need others to tell us what our moral obligations are.

12/21/2011 5:11:24 PM


Why are there immigrant populations in European cities? 1, because those countries had empires which conquered foreign territories and claimed their land, and the citizens of those territories were encouraged to think of themselves as citizens of the colonizing country and encouraged in some cases to settle there, to be used as cheap labour just as they were in the colony. 2, The tactic of divide and rule. If you put immigrant populations, with a different culture, in traditionalist working class communities, there is bound to be conflict, and this kind of diversion and lack of unity is useful to the powers that be. The issue of atheism is simply irrelevant here.

12/21/2011 7:54:20 PM


Now Europeans are in perpetual fear of Islamic domination.

Only those Europeans who are 'Daily Mail' readers...

12/22/2011 12:26:04 AM


Well nowadays Islam lives in fear of the cultural dominance of the west not the other way around.

12/22/2011 2:46:44 AM


[Looks around]

Not this Europe.

Oh, maybe you mean Yurrp? That place Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh don't like?

12/22/2011 5:31:11 AM

Shai Hulud

example, the continent of Europe has been sold to Islam

Sir may I see your receipt?

12/22/2011 8:55:18 AM





12/22/2011 10:13:27 AM


Atheism wouldn't be a movement or even a topic of much discussion if the godbots didn't continuously lie about the laws and history of the US, interfere with functional education, and commit all sorts of evil in the name of god.

12/22/2011 6:07:49 PM


Yes, becuase we all know that Christians never abuse drugs or commit crimes. Or are they just not "true" Christians?

12/22/2011 8:41:48 PM

Mister Spak

(Eastern) islam may be defined as a bunch of monkeys jumping up and down and screaming and throwing shit at each other because an invisible man in the sky told them to.

12/23/2011 8:45:42 AM


Cheney mean anything? Neocons? Haggard? Swaggart etc, etc.

Clearly Nur El-Masih ben Haq has never been to Europe.

12/23/2011 1:28:34 PM

Or they just don´t believe in God.

12/24/2011 9:43:29 AM

Steven Mading

Where did this stupid meme that atheism and islam are the same thing start, anyway? I've seen it in more than one place - this stupid idea that somehow both atheists and muslims are in some sort of alliance together. Anyone with any ounce of sense would understand that would be the stupidist alliance for atheists to make, ever. "What, you want an Islamic theocracy? Well, that sounds wonderful for us atheists. Why I think we'd fare very well under such a regime, sign me up!"

12/26/2011 5:01:54 PM

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