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Now it is legal in the United States Armed Services, if this gets through the House and is signed by President Obama, bestiality will be legal in the ranks of the Armed Services. It boggles the mind.

But this is that slippery slope we’re on, so I guess we shouldn’t be surprised to find that the United States Air Force Academy recently built a shrine – a Satanic Wiccan shrine – so that Wiccans can worship at the Air Force Academy.

Once you open the door to evil, it doesn’t take long for it to fall completely apart.


Matt Barber, Right wing watch 51 Comments [12/24/2011 7:04:54 AM]
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John_in_Oz

Matt Barber's drag name is Savagesusie.

12/24/2011 7:09:18 AM

Ken

And then we'll all be forced to marry tables! And nobody but me gets a place to worship!

12/24/2011 7:14:29 AM

OhJohnNo

You really think the only reason nobody did bestiality in the army was because it was illegal?

12/24/2011 7:32:36 AM

Horsefeathers

"Now it is legal in the United States Armed Services, if this gets through the House and is signed by President Obama, bestiality will be legal in the ranks of the Armed Services. It boggles the mind."

Bullshit.

I don't have any idea what you're talking about, but it's still bullshit.

"But this is that slippery slope we’re on, so I guess we shouldn’t be surprised to find that the United States Air Force Academy recently built a shrine – a Satanic Wiccan shrine – so that Wiccans can worship at the Air Force Academy."

So far as I know, it's a disused field and not a "shrine" of any sort.

"Once you open the door to evil, it doesn’t take long for it to fall completely apart."

Yes, yes. Go whine somewhere else.

12/24/2011 7:48:14 AM

JohnTheAtheist

I haven't been following the legislation coming through the House lately but I feel pretty confident that there is not a pending bill that would say it is ok for GI's to fuck dogs.

I am also farily confident that Matt is a douchebag.

12/24/2011 7:50:41 AM



More bullshit from the wrong wing.

12/24/2011 7:57:06 AM

The Dude Abides

you do this song if parody right, not real life?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXPcBI4CJc8

12/24/2011 8:00:24 AM

Doubting Thomas

Now it is legal in the United States Armed Services, if this gets through the House and is signed by President Obama, bestiality will be legal in the ranks of the Armed Services.

Are you just using the slippery slope argument that since gays can now be open in the military that people will be allowed to fuck animals, or are you just pulling this whole thing out of your ass?

Honestly, is this really a problem? I can't imagine that if bestiality is legal then there's going to be widespread animal fucking going on in the military.

the United States Air Force Academy recently built a shrine – a Satanic Wiccan shrine – so that Wiccans can worship at the Air Force Academy.

Freedom of religion, bitch. And Wiccans don't worship Satan. If you weren't so close minded to bunch everything you hate into one group and actually learned about these other religions, you'd know that.

12/24/2011 8:19:54 AM

NoriMori

"Now it is legal in the United States Armed Services, if this gets through the House and is signed by President Obama, bestiality will be legal in the ranks of the Armed Services."

Riiiight... You willing to bet money on that? Cuz I could really use $1,000,000 right now.

12/24/2011 9:05:45 AM

SpukiKitty

First off, beastiality is animal abuse of a sexual nature & animals can't consent.

Second, WICCANS ARE NOT SATANISTS!!!

Peaceful, New Agey Nature-Loving NeoPagans who preach "Harm None", yes....Anton LaVey/Michael Aquino/Michael Ford fan club, no.

Wiccans tolerate Satanists & some see them as a form of "Dark NeoPagan" while others think they're a load of hot air. Many Satanists have a dim view of Wiccans.

That said, a Satanist should have a right to do ritual, too under the Establishment Clause. Satanists can be just as law-abiding as anyone & most are basically an "Ayn Rand Fan Club" with spooky Black Mass trappings. The weirdos like Richard Ramirez are an aberation & despite their selfish, Objectivist life philiosophy, Satanist are actually sensible people who aren't murderous lovers of evil.

Many don't even worship the Devil anyway, it's just some Objectivist Club that looks like a Dark NeoPagan sect (to shock folks like you).

Some Satanists are genuine Dark NeoPagans & some are just Anti-Establishment Dark Humanist/Objectivists who just pretend to do "Occult Rituals".

You, Matt, are an idiot.

12/24/2011 9:13:06 AM

Thinking Allowed

For starters, animals cannot give consent, therefore bestiality will not be legal.

Secondly, someone doesn't understand what satanism is.

12/24/2011 9:15:28 AM



Satanic Wiccans ? the Godess will get them for that !!


12/24/2011 9:22:21 AM



Ok, let´s asume that bestiality happens. It affects you, how?. Ok, animals can´t consent, that´s the difference.

12/24/2011 9:37:36 AM

The_L

There is no such thing as a Satanic Wiccan. That's like being a Presbyterian Scientologist--the two religions are completely unrelated.

As for bestiality--do you honestly think that there is a widespread epidemic of soldiers fucking animals?

Someone is holding the Idiot Ball today. I'm pretty sure that this time, it's not me.

12/24/2011 9:45:49 AM

dfmfundies

The source of this bestiality Big Lie is changing the Uniform Code of Military Justice to reflect the repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." One provision listed bestiality along with homosexuality. That provision was simply dropped, instead of rewritten, thus giving rise to this crap. Bestiality is still covered by other provisions of the UCMJ.

Also, I call bullshit on the Air Force Academy Wiccan shrine. There is a problem with religion at Colorado Springs, but it's with Christianity. Non-Christian cadets have reported being harassed about their beliefs.

12/24/2011 9:53:35 AM

freako104

Satanic Wiccans. That's an oxymoron. I will grant the last sentence. When I see how much hatred consumes Evangelical Christians, it makes sense.

12/24/2011 10:10:13 AM



[citation needed]

12/24/2011 10:37:12 AM

Nicole

I think Matt is referring to the National Defense Authorization Act (an absolutely terrible bill overall), which AFAIK repeals the military law against sodomy and bestiality. PETA was up in arms over it awhile ago.

12/24/2011 10:54:53 AM



"United States Air Force Academy recently built a shrine"

I'll grant you, the shrine exists... but it wasn't built like you think it was.

There was an anti-erosion project that had to move several very large boulders so that the Chapel below them wouldn't get damaged/destroyed when they fell... the engineers stuck the rocks in a rough circle at the top of the hill.
Some months later, a Pagan looking for somewhere to have a shrine spotted this "circle" and got permission for a small shrine to be placed there. Total cost to the Air Force, ZERO!

Funny thing though... the Air force has had to spend money on the shrine since then, to protect it from intolerant bigoted Christians who snuck up there during the night and erected a bloody great big crucifix in the middle of it. So the AF had to pay for CCTV security to stop fuckwits like you from breaking the law and violating that Freedom of Religion you like to harp on about.

So... now you know... and the thing going through the House right now? It simply stops you calling any sexual act that is not Missionary position sex as Sodomy, AND stops Sodomy from being illegal. The fact that the law it is removing added in Bestiality in the "Sodomy" list is just bigots like you fucking about with the laws... there are laws already in place that protect animals from that, so you're talking complete fucking rubbish when you say it'll be made legal.

Stop lying your fucking head off...

12/24/2011 11:20:54 AM

J. James

@Nicole

Exactly, and even though it would be removed from the books as it's own separate crime, it would still be illegal several times over due to conduct and animal cruelty rules.

And, as mentioned earlier, it's not like there would be an avalanche of interspecies rape-orgies if it somehow DID become legal.

12/24/2011 11:22:48 AM

lisamariefan

@Nicole

Or more accurately, just sodomy. The only reason bestiality is part of that is because sodomy has such a broad definition, and apparently includes sex with animals.

12/24/2011 11:23:44 AM

Anon-e-moose

PROTIP: 'DADT' does not mean 'Dogs Are Doable Too.'

12/24/2011 11:53:45 AM

Panz

What the FUCK is this shit?!

12/24/2011 12:01:51 PM

welcome to ostrich town

So there's a lot of furries and people who don't research their own religion in the army, huh?

12/24/2011 12:46:01 PM

Sasha

Once you open the door to evil, it doesn’t take long for it to fall completely apart.

So evil is going to completely fall apart because bestiality is becoming legal? I can see the bumper stickers now: "I LOVE DOGS FOR JEBUS."

12/24/2011 1:43:25 PM
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