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More than 4,000 people say they will attend a march in Beit Shemesh [Israel] this week to protest the exclusion of women and girls from the public sphere and the increasing Haredization of the city. The day, time and venue of the event have yet to be announced.

A number of times in recent weeks girls and women in Beit Shemesh have been been cursed and spit at, and even had rocks thrown at them, by members of the city's ultra-Orthodox community who claimed their dress was immodest.

A sign put up in the city center under the aegis of the municipality instructs women to use separate sidewalks and "walk quickly, without drawing a crowd and without talking to each other."

But it is the tears of a 7-year-old girl, broadcast on Channel 2's Friday-night news magazine this weekend, that is galvanizing thousands; only two days were needed for those 4,000 people to confirm their attendance at the march. Na'ama, who lives with her religiously observant family in Beit Shemesh, is afraid to walk the 300 meters between home and school because of the violence she has faced from Haredi men who say her clothes are too revealing.

Ultra-Orthodox Jews, Haaretz 66 Comments [12/28/2011 3:56:44 AM]
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Vile swine. But good on those women for taking a stand!

12/28/2011 4:19:48 AM

The Jamo

It just boggles the mind how stupidity of this magnitude can survive and even spread in today's world of space flight, internet, particle accellerators, advanced medicine and other wonderful things.

12/28/2011 4:23:12 AM


If you spit and curse on a 7-year old for "wearing immodest clothing", you're really messed up. I hope this protest shuts them up something fierce...

12/28/2011 4:32:07 AM


I keep wondering just WHAT is wrong with these guys. They don't want to see "immodestly dressed" women, let THEM wear sunglasses or blinders instead of the rest of the world catering to their whims. It won't look any sillier than what they're wearing now.

12/28/2011 4:40:20 AM

Raised by Horses

And people don't tell them and their ultra-orthodox asses to get stuffed... why? They're just a bunch of whiny clowns in silly black garb. Who gave them the authority to poke their noses into other peoples' lives?

12/28/2011 5:09:29 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

A fundie is a fundie is a fundie...

12/28/2011 5:27:06 AM

Mr Blur

Any man who threatens a 7-year-old girl because they think her clothing makes her into an over-sexualised object has issues to face which should ensure they aren't allowed to walk around freely in the first place.

12/28/2011 6:02:08 AM


Just another group of stuck-up asshats with a serious attitude problem.

12/28/2011 6:21:44 AM


Last night I had the pleasure of watching the Israeli police clobber these sanctimonious misogynists with nightsticks while the rest of Israel cheered.

12/28/2011 6:40:41 AM

Vermicious Knid

If these guys don't want to see immodestly dressed women, all they need to do stay in their homes 24/7 with the curtains drawn. That way they'll never have to see anything that offends them, and the women and girls will be able to go about their business without being spit on and abused.

In other words, it's not a woman's responsibility to keep a man's libido in check, it's his own responsibility. And if he is truly unable to do that, he needs to be shunned and locked away somewhere so he can't hurt anyone, like what is done with anyone else whose lack of impulse control leads to violence.

12/28/2011 7:55:01 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Wait a minute, so there are whole cities in Israel where females are not allowed to do anything except, basically, stay in the kitchen? Yup, Israel is on its way to becoming a theocracy, all right.

12/28/2011 8:08:59 AM


She's fucking 7, you sick cunts! Unless she's dressed like a miniature hooker, saying she dresses too revealingly is like outing yourself as Pedobear.

12/28/2011 8:13:33 AM


For the love of God!

If you want to be Orthodox, then be Orthodox. That doesn't mean you should torment people who don't.

12/28/2011 8:14:05 AM


A 7 year old girl is "dressed too immodestly"? Someone needs psychological help because being tempted by a 7 year old is not normal at all. Even an adult has the human right to wear whatever she wants and be free from abuse. You can hate it, you can talk shit about women that do that, but the moment you harass or harm them (or even attempt to) you have crossed the line and deserve to be punished to the full extent of the law.

12/28/2011 8:25:52 AM


Yeah. Great way to maintain that post-Holocaust sympathy, Hasidim. When you alienate half of your sympathisers.

Then they wonder why modern Israel is becoming more & more secular? And why the more liberal rabbis are growing in number?

I watched the Nick Broomfield documentary "Sarah Palin: You Betcha!" on Channel 4 last night. Seems the ultra-orthodox Jews go by the same playbook as she does - the complete opposite of the original self-help manual by Dale Carnegie "How to Win Friends and Influence People":

How to Lose Friends and Alienate People.

The women of Israel who stand up to these cunts will no doubt gain the sympathy that said Hasidim once had. PROTIP: Just as there is no excuse for Anti-Semitism, being Semites yourselves means you have even less right to exhibit bigotry towards others - least of all your own kind. Sexism = Anti-Semitism.

12/28/2011 8:33:45 AM

Let's not forget that the 7 yr old in question IS REQUIRED TO WEAR A SCHOOL UNIFORM to her Jewish school... it is just these arses think that the uniform isn't modest enough!

12/28/2011 8:41:40 AM


Sounds like Saudi Arabia ... same misogyny, different religion. Fundie Christians would do the same thing if they could.

12/28/2011 8:54:10 AM


I'm glad they're starting to nip these fundies in the bud before they engulf the country! We Americans should have done this with our nuts years ago!

I believe in Freedom Of Religion but there should be exceptions when it comes to fanaticism. Embrace Reason or shut up I say! Fundies are filth! They are a cancer....THEY DESERVE NO RELIGIOUS RIGHTS!

Faith & Religion only works when paired with REASON! FAITH & REASON! ADAPT WITH THE TIMES!

This is not about Liberal vs. Conservative, even Conservatives can be sane & reasonable. This is about Normal People of Faith vs. Asuric, Demiurgic Psychopaths!

Fundies are an inhuman affront to Faith, Spirituality, Humanity, Country, MOTHER EARTH!

People have a right to believe or not believe! Equal Rights, Peace, Love & HARMONY for all folks whenever Theist, Atheist, Deist or Agnostic! Fundies amongst any of them, however, can SHOVE IT!

12/28/2011 9:21:35 AM

Stoning a girl to death - yer doin it wrong.

This seems to suggest that Adult Haredi men get excited at 7 year old girls. That just seems terribly wrong.

12/28/2011 9:31:59 AM

Thinking Allowed

A sign put up in the city center under the aegis of the municipality instructs women to use separate sidewalks and "walk quickly, without drawing a crowd and without talking to each other."

Best way to draw attention to something is by saying don't draw attention to yourself.

12/28/2011 9:37:03 AM


Dear me. Usually I am careful to complain about the Abrahamic religions, not really specific religions. Usually this means Christianity and Islam. The Jews are usually not as bad, because at least they don't seek to proselytise or claim universality for their religion.
Then they go and pull something like this, and I realise I was right to put the three big Abrahamic religions in the same category.

12/28/2011 10:00:19 AM


Frummers. Fuck 'em.

12/28/2011 10:12:32 AM


You gotta love those misogynistic religions. Sooner or later, smart women will wise up and those men will find themselves without any mates, then their patriarchal bullshit ways will die with them.

12/28/2011 10:13:48 AM

Someone force them to watch "Toddlers and Tiaras"... and then let us watch as their heads implode.

12/28/2011 10:43:01 AM


I'll also add, in previous courageous demonstrations, these sick fucks threw HUMAN FAECES at schoolchildren.

Yep, their own (presumably) shit.

Chimps and other primates do this, but the vast majority of humanity has evolved out of the habit. Ironic that a religion which insists on the 'divine' and special nature of humans makes its adherents behave like lower animals.

12/28/2011 11:01:04 AM

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