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In a society that was being converted, homosexuals could continue to be converted as they were in the church of Corinth. Even after a society implemented Biblical law and made homosexuality a crime, there are many checks and balances that would be in place. The civil government could not round them up. Only those who were prosecuted by citizens could be punished, and the punishment could take a number of forms, including death. This would have a tendency of driving homosexuals back into their closets. I think I have demonstrated how even capital punishment can be restorative. Other aspects of penology such as restitution, indentured servitude, etc. are certainly restorative.

Pastor Phil Kayser, Joe. My. God. 45 Comments [12/31/2011 8:17:31 AM]
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Submitted By: Aspergus
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John

Only those who were prosecuted by citizens could be punished, and the punishment could take a number of forms, including death.

I think they tried something like that (with witches, not homosexuals) back in Salem in the 1690's. McCarthy tried it with communists in the 1950's, too. Like witchcraft and communism, it's always easy to accuse someone and almost impossible for them to disprove it. It also allows people an easy way to blackmail or destroy people they don't like - look at the false child-molesting charges that people sometimes try to bring up during custody hearings.

12/31/2011 8:27:37 AM



That's nice. Now why don't you tell us why homosexuals should be killed or punished by society without using your bullshit bible.

12/31/2011 8:36:36 AM

Raised by Horses

"I think I have demonstrated how even capital punishment can be restorative."

I think pretty much all available data on the subject says otherwise. Capital punishment does not, by itself, deter crime.

But hey, feel free to keep using Rick Perry logic here. ("It works. It works. You must be doing something wrong lol.")

12/31/2011 8:46:45 AM

Alencon

What exactly do these people have against homosexuals as oposed to other "sinners?"

12/31/2011 8:57:03 AM

Thinking Allowed

I think I have demonstrated how even capital punishment can be restorative. Other aspects of penology such as restitution, indentured servitude, etc. are certainly restorative.


Funny how well it works in countries that have such laws as this.

12/31/2011 9:11:36 AM

rw23

Which societies implemented biblical law? How many snarky children did they stone?

12/31/2011 9:16:01 AM

Papabear

"Only those who were prosecuted by citizens could be punished, and the punishment could take a number of forms, including death."

[b]So, in some situations you advocate the death penalty for homosexuality?[/b[

"Other aspects of penology such as restitution, indentured servitude, etc. are certainly restorative."

Exactly what would restitution be if one was convicted of homosexuality? You took it up the butt, so now you have to f*ck this guy in the butt?

12/31/2011 9:43:13 AM

JSS

Geez. Even the Ahmadinejad sort-of-resembling picture of him alone is enough to suggest he's a freedom-hating bigot worthy of feeding to lions in the Coliseum.

12/31/2011 10:35:58 AM

Arctic Knight

Only those who were prosecuted by citizens could be punished, and the punishment could take a number of forms, including death. This would have a tendency of driving Christians back into their closets.

I bet you don't like the way that one sounds, do you?

12/31/2011 10:37:09 AM

N. De Plume

So… “driving homosexuals back into their closets” is what is considered “restorative?” Does that mean homosexuality is actually okay, just so long as you don’t get caught?

12/31/2011 10:49:20 AM

Reynardine

In short, the state won't lynch homosexuals. They'll just stand by and say, "oh, nothing", while the mobs they dogwhistled into homicidal fury do it.

12/31/2011 11:00:46 AM

Fawful has seen God has a vagina on top of his penis

"Only those who were prosecuted by citizens could be punished, and the punishment could take a number of forms, including death".

Go back to your rally in Nuremberg you black-shirt, shit-brained fascist.

12/31/2011 11:02:56 AM

mad the swine

"Only those who were prosecuted by citizens could be punished, and the punishment could take a number of forms... other aspects of penology such as restitution, indentured servitude, etc. are certainly restorative."

So if I, a citizen, decide to 'prosecute' a homosexual, I can force him to pay me a fine or serve me as a slave? Nice!

And by 'nice', of course, I mean WHAT THE FUCK?

Edit: In classical Athens (you know, the Athens Paul visited in Acts 17), the justice system worked like this. Prosecutions were carried out by individual citizens, volunteers acting on their own behalf or on behalf of the State, who received a portion of the fines levied on a convicted defendant. Man, if you think *America* is overlawyered...

12/31/2011 11:07:08 AM

Matante

Of course, he wants a gay boy slave, of course...

12/31/2011 11:10:25 AM



"Even after a society implemented Biblical law"

They just don't think of all the other stuff that would become illegal, do they?

12/31/2011 11:11:23 AM

Headache

It never ceases to amaze me how much religious people are frothing at the mouth over the idea of violence and executions, the bloodlust is sickening!

12/31/2011 11:20:52 AM

Aspergus

So, it seems to me that you're saying the government should turn a blind eye and allow lynch mobs to take care of everything, kind of reminiscent of the Jim Crow era?

The Second Amendment really does come in handy in situations where people like this would sooner see me dead than to have any human rights whatsoever.

12/31/2011 11:26:14 AM

Passerby

So if I'm reading this right you want people to forcibly convert to a specific religion then hunt down homosexuals to be imprisoned, killed, severely fined, or enslaved...

But not by the government of course, that would just be immoral.

12/31/2011 11:47:40 AM

Mad_Jester

How. Fucking. DARE you be that stupid while in posession of a name THAT similar to mine? I demand you legally change your name to something more befitting your level of ignorance, like 'Bumblefuck Licker-of-Bus-Seats' or 'Adurrhurr Whaaaaaaaargarble'!

12/31/2011 11:52:52 AM

LAchlan

You know he's really just dying for a big hard dick up his ass, and he hates himself for it.

12/31/2011 12:22:00 PM

TheReasonator

Indentured servitude for homosexuality?

LOL

That one might not work as well as you were hoping, especially if the bondsholders own a nice pair of whips and chains.

12/31/2011 12:36:50 PM

rallymodeller

That actually makes perfect sense. Because, after all, it worked well for the Romans vis-a-vis Christianity.

12/31/2011 12:46:38 PM

Karana

I don't understand what people have against homosexuality! I mean, the Bible also tells people to stone their unruly kids to death outside of town and that people who wear mixed fabrics and eat shellfish should also have the same fate. It's all in the same place in that book. So, WHY, oh WHY are you not advocating the same things for people who eat at Red Lobster, wear pretty much any kind of clothing at all, and teenagers that rebel?
I think you believe whatever you believe and attempt to reconcile it with your magical holy book, but can't bring yourself to be consistent with what it actually says because it's horrible in every way shape and form and you know it.

12/31/2011 1:29:13 PM

freako104

No you really didn't.

12/31/2011 2:09:26 PM

Brandy Bogard

@Headache

Says the guy who thinks those who were mislead to stop taking their medications by some fraud literally deserved to die.

12/31/2011 2:11:46 PM
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