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Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul’s gay-friendly image is taking another hit with the revelation of his endorsement by a minister who advocates the death penalty for homosexuality.

Paul’s campaign chairman for Iowa, which has an early voice in the nominating process with next Tuesday’s caucus, put out a statement yesterday touting the endorsement of the Reverend Phillip Kayser, pastor of Dominion Covenant Church in Omaha, Neb., just across the border from Iowa. Talking Points Memo reports that a paper Kayser wrote a few years ago claims the Bible justifies capital punishment for gay people.

“Difficulty in implementing Biblical law does not make non-Biblical penology just,” he wrote. “But as we have seen, while many homosexuals would be executed, the threat of capital punishment can be restorative,” leading gays to “repent.”

TPM interviewed Kayser by phone, and he confirmed his support for biblical punishments for homosexuality, up to and including the death penalty. He noted that he has differences with the candidate on gay issues — Paul, a member of Congress, voted to repeal “don’t ask, don’t tell” — but he believes Paul, as president, would allow states leeway to enact laws based on the Bible. “Under a Ron Paul presidency, states would be freed up to not have political correctness imposed on them, but obviously some state would follow what’s politically correct,” Kayser said.

The Paul campaign website had posted a press release on Kayser’s endorsement, but by Wednesday evening it had been taken off the site. Paul and his staff have made no further public statement on the matter.



Rev. Phillip Kayser, Advocate 53 Comments [1/1/2012 5:37:54 AM]
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Ormspryde

...there are literally no words for stupidity of this magnitude. Other than 'go fuck yourself with a blowtorch,' that is.

1/1/2012 6:04:43 AM



Following that logic, why not prohibiting lycra?. Just a thought.

1/1/2012 6:12:10 AM

mad the swine

Repeat from 2011.

1/1/2012 6:30:06 AM

Reynardine

Isn't this the second time in as many days that we have seen the death penalty called "restorative"? What wordmill is this coming from?

1/1/2012 6:46:56 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

So, Ron Paul would not uphold the Constitution? Glad we cleared that up.

1/1/2012 7:00:01 AM

Gypsin

another year of this?! don't they ever get tired of acting like monsters?

1/1/2012 7:13:07 AM

Robespierre

As I see, it, that's the problem with libertarianism: it leaves groups of people/powerful people free to bully everybody else.
The assumption that coercion can only come from the law is quite foolish.


1/1/2012 7:19:11 AM

freako104

The death penalty isn't restorative. It's not meant to be. So you fail. Also Biblical law isn't really just to unbelievers. Though non Biblical laws tend to be more just

1/1/2012 7:29:39 AM

Noneofyourbusiness

If Paul has a lick of sense and knows about these statements he must repudiate this guy.

1/1/2012 7:54:15 AM

Xero

Ron Paul had a "gay-friendly image"?? Since when?

1/1/2012 8:02:33 AM

rubber chicken

What I find saddest here is the idea that a potential candidate for one of the most powerful elected positions in the world should find it necessary to trumpet the endorsement of some completely unknown religious figure. Do you not have policies ? An overriding vision of the future in which those whose votes you seek have better lives ? Possible solutions to any of the myriad of problems that best the world ?
No, of course not, in the disneyesque world of American politics, it is enough to say: "Hey, Look at who likes me!"

1/1/2012 8:51:15 AM

Papabear

Yup, nuthin's quite as restorative as gettin' killed.

1/1/2012 9:00:17 AM

Alencon

Do these people understand that the President, as powerful as the office is, doesn't control what laws can and cannot be implemented?

I suspect that not only the U.S. Supreme Court but the various state Supreme Courts would take a dim view of any attempt to implement Rev. Kayser's ideas. Assuming he could get them past any legislature which is highly doiubtful.

1/1/2012 9:03:19 AM

whoanelly

Ok, first of all, Ron Paul is not an advocate for anything good or right. Second of all, read the constitution sometime, you twat, biblical law will never legally be implemented. And if you even try, the ACLU will sue you so fast your head will spin and then the Supreme Court, even though they're a bunch of conservative fucks like Scalia right now, will wipe the floor with you. Third of all, you're a terrible person (understatement, I know) and if hell is real I hope you burn in it.

@Noneofyourbusiness: I think you mean "refudiate". /sarcasm

1/1/2012 9:17:38 AM

John

he believes Paul, as president, would allow states leeway to enact laws based on the Bible.

The President has little power to affect state laws, other than perhaps to withhold Federal funds in order to "encourage" certain behavior. He certainly has no direct say in whether a state's laws are constitutional.

1/1/2012 9:32:40 AM



"the threat of capital punishment can be restorative"

That saying so wrong on many levels. That's like saying having the shit beating out of you is "cleansing."

1/1/2012 10:11:18 AM

D Laurier

wtf?

1/1/2012 10:50:17 AM



biblical law also calls for the death penalty against people who work on saturday's dumbass

1/1/2012 10:55:36 AM

Skyknight

Alencon: It probably has something to do with the Presidency constantly getting called "the highest office in the land"...That kind of phrasing is easily a beacon for authoritarians to project their hopes upon any given candidate.

1/1/2012 11:01:50 AM

rw23

> the threat of capital punishment can be restorative,” leading gays to “repent.”

And stoning adulterers would also be restorative, wouldn't it? Excellent. So that's all of society's complex interrelational problems solved. Now, let's move on to world peace. What's that you say, Skippy? An autocratic global theocracy will bring peace on earth and goodwill to all men? Then I say go for it!

1/1/2012 11:10:21 AM

Karana

I'll love the backpeddling that is sure to occur by Ron Paul...

1/1/2012 11:22:08 AM

Greater Good

Wait, since when is Ron Paul "gay friendly"? I'm pretty sure an advert of his said he wanted to stop gay marriage.

1/1/2012 11:53:22 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Heh. "Penology".

1/1/2012 1:44:36 PM

Comrade Potatovich

Mixed fabrics.

1/1/2012 1:55:59 PM

Old Viking

Biblical law? Is that like Satanic law, only more violent?

1/1/2012 3:18:48 PM
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