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Let it again be entered into the record that I defend Maoist suppression of religion, and am ultimately in favor of a communist state which mandates atheism by force, although I believe successful implementation of such a program will take several generations, the first of which should focus on suppressing clergy rather than all believers. [Emphasis added]

love moderately ? , Pharyngula 62 Comments [1/1/2012 5:41:56 AM]
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Old Viking

I'm in favor of a state in which absolutely everyone wears a chicken suit. My hopes are growing dimmer, however.

1/1/2012 3:12:40 PM


Viking: My pet rooster wears a chicken suit all the time, and there are a dozen more across the street. There are three or more such suits per person on the planet. Keep on- you're winning!

1/1/2012 4:18:20 PM


@Old Viking:

We may be able to accomodate you.

1/1/2012 4:46:06 PM


Reverse Poe. Real atheists know that atheism and communism are completely unrelated.

1/1/2012 4:55:34 PM


Can't tell if Poe or not.

1/1/2012 6:11:59 PM

Doubting Thomas

I think education will work better than anything at turning people away from religion.

Though I wonder if the troll who wrote this did so so that he could point to this post to show how evil those atheists are.

1/1/2012 7:21:49 PM

Night Jaguar

If you read the discussion you see:

1) It's probably not a Poe (reverse-Poe, etc.)

2) The Pharyngulites criticize this view harshly.
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N. De Plume [love the name btw],

…you’re not gonna make it with anyone, anyhow.



love moderately has been haunting Pharyngula for a while now. Sometimes he can express himself reasonably fairly and sufficiently eloquently, other times he goes off the deep end. He's just a half-troll at the moment.


1/1/2012 9:01:39 PM


So, no agnostics, diests, spiritualists, buddhists, or any other belief system that does no harm to others?

Actions which harm others should of course be prohibited (whether done in the name of religion or not) but prohibiting mere beliefs = thought crime = really ugly results...

1/1/2012 9:25:07 PM


Ah, i see you are promoting a degenerated worker's state. Either you should learn how to think pragmatically or go fuck yourself.

1/1/2012 11:08:38 PM


I'm in favour of a world order in which international conflicts are settled by competitive belly dancing.

1/2/2012 1:12:16 AM


N. De Plume wins a platinum internet.

1/2/2012 1:12:58 AM


Reverse Poe. Real atheists know that atheism and communism are completely unrelated.

Real Atheist? You mean sort of like a real Scotsman? :P

1/2/2012 1:27:32 AM


Fail Troll.

1/2/2012 3:21:04 AM


Yes, because acting exactly like the people you dislike is going to improve the world, certainly.

1/2/2012 8:45:45 AM


PROTIP: The slang term for Chamber Pot being 'Po(e)'.

Besides, the way the world is nowadays, secular laws in democratic, civilised countries are doing a fine job in destroying religious rule over people (such as it was centuries ago), as religion had everything it's own way for so long, and people eventually learned what a shitty idea Church & State indivisible was; if anything, via such religion-destroying laws, it's now a case of people telling religion what to do (Roe vs. Wade, Kitzmiller vs. Dover etc), which is the dominant socio-political paradigm, and therefore is as things should be.

Moral: Rule of Law >>>>> Theocracy. Every time. Deal with it, anti-Democracy, Nazi Dominionist fundies. [/Reverse Godwin]

1/2/2012 10:05:36 AM


1/2/2012 7:17:51 PM



I wasn't saying "no atheist would support communism." I was saying I thought the author was a parodist. (Obviously anyone who doesn't believe in gods is an atheist regardless of whether or not they agree with me on other things.) Reading now I see that Night Jaguar and others disagree based on the thread, and since I try to stay away from Pharyngula nowadays I'll just take their word and retract my claim.

1/3/2012 12:13:29 AM

Mister Spak

Do you also support Maoist cultural revolutions where 5 million people die of starvation?

1/3/2012 6:10:08 AM

Raised by Horses

We don't need Maoist-style "re-education" camps. Regular education works just fine when it comes to dispelling superstition. (Which is probably why it's receiving the slash-and-burn treatment around the globe).

1/3/2012 6:33:46 AM


I'm autistic, so the world is incredibly scary for me. I will admit to employing religious superstition in order to control my fear of the world, at least enough so that I can function. At this point, I have learned to maintain eye contact, carry on a half-decent conversation, and I have 2 graduate degrees. I wouldn't have been able to do any of that if I didn't believe that there was something helping me. That being said, I'm Pagan, so my religion is not the same as the majority of those around me, I don't believe that in proselytizing, and I don't think that religion, mine or any other, is necessarily for everyone. I think everyone has their own spiritual needs and those needs can be met in different ways.

1/3/2012 6:51:34 AM

= POPE =

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.


Edit: @ Liz:

The world is incredibly scary for anyone who is actually paying attention.

1/3/2012 12:58:04 PM

Non-retarded Atheist

Not sure if troll or retard...

1/3/2012 1:11:22 PM

Steven Mading

"He still posts, though not as frequently as he used to. He's already been blocked for causing trouble on other websites. I don't know why PZ doesn't just block his ISP"

Well, maybe because he figures its not the fault of one customer of that ISP that another customer of that ISP is being an ass? Blocking an entire ISP is only appropriate when the ISP is at fault for something, not when just one of its many customers is.

1/4/2012 1:04:49 PM


@Steven Mading: they probably mean ban his "IP address," not his "ISP." An IP address is unique and sometimes the only way to ban someone, and only affects one computer. I mean, it'd suck if you shared a computer with an IP-banned person and tried to get onto the same site, but it wouldn't be what you're thinking of.

1/4/2012 7:22:03 PM

pretty puppy

There is so much wrong in that statement but I shall focus on this: you can not mandate a belief or lack of belief.

1/5/2012 5:59:55 PM

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